Equilibrium Problem: Relationship Between Q, K, and ∆G

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the reaction quotient (Q), equilibrium constant (K), and Gibbs Free Energy (∆G) in the context of chemical equilibrium. Participants explore specific statements related to these concepts and engage in a follow-up question regarding the effect of temperature on the equilibrium constant for an exothermic reaction.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that when Q=K, then ∆G=0, indicating equilibrium has been reached.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the meaning of ∆G, seeking further explanation.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the reasoning behind these concepts is important, rather than relying on guesses.
  • Participants discuss the effect of temperature on the equilibrium constant Kp for an exothermic reaction, with one proposing that Kp at 1,200˚K is smaller than at 800˚K due to the nature of exothermic reactions.
  • Some participants reference Le Chatelier's principle in relation to temperature changes and equilibrium constants.
  • There is a suggestion that directly providing answers may not be beneficial for learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the statement that when Q=K, then ∆G=0. However, there is disagreement regarding the effects of temperature on Kp, with multiple viewpoints presented without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference concepts such as Gibbs Free Energy and Le Chatelier's principle, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of temperature changes on Kp or the specific answers to the posed questions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying chemical equilibrium, particularly those interested in the relationships between Q, K, and ∆G, as well as the effects of temperature on equilibrium constants.

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I just took a test today, and I want to see if I got the right answer. I sort of guessed. Here's the question:
Which statement is correct?
  • a) When Q<K, then ∆G=1
  • b) When Q<K, then ∆G=-∆S
  • c) When Q=K, then ∆G=0
  • d) When Q>K, then ∆G=1
  • e) When Q>K, then ∆G=-RT
I put C, because when Q=K, the system is at equilibrium. I don't really know what ∆G is though other than that it's Gibb's Free Energy. Please explain your answer. Thanks so much! :smile::biggrin:
 
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Its correct . change in gibbs free energy becomes zero when equilibrium is attained
 
proton007007 said:
Its correct . change in gibbs free energy becomes zero when equilibrium is attained
Thanks! While I've got you, would you mind answering this one:
The reaction 2H2O2(g) ⇔ 2H2O(g)+O2(g) is exothermic: ∆H˚rxn=-210 kj/mol. Which one of the following is correct:
a) Kp at 800˚K is smaller than Kp at 1,200˚K
b) Temperature does not affect Kp
c) Kp depends only on pressure
d) Kp at 1,200˚K is smaller than Kp at 800˚K
e) Kp depends on total pressure as well as temperature.
 
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But its better to know the reason as luck and logical reasoning may not always help you . Google up Gibbs Free Energy :)
 
proton007007 said:
But its better to know the reason as luck and logical reasoning may not always help you . Google up Gibbs Free Energy :)
While I've got you, would you mind answering this one:
The reaction 2H2O2(g) ⇔ 2H2O(g)+O2(g) is exothermic: ∆H˚rxn=-210 kj/mol. Which one of the following is correct:
a) Kp at 800˚K is smaller than Kp at 1,200˚K
b) Temperature does not affect Kp
c) Kp depends only on pressure
d) Kp at 1,200˚K is smaller than Kp at 800˚K
e) Kp depends on total pressure as well as temperature.
 
Well , giving out the answer directly won't do you good and it would (maybe) be against the forum rules . Think about Le Chateliers principle and the temperature variation of equilibrium constant . You must have surely learned this .
 
proton007007 said:
Well , giving out the answer directly won't do you good and it would (maybe) be against the forum rules . Think about Le Chateliers principle and the temperature variation of equilibrium constant . You must have surely learned this .
I attempted that and I'm just seeing if I was right. I said that D was the answer, because at 1200˚K, more reactants will be produced (exothermic), so Kc would be smaller.
 
I don't see you mentioning your answer and your attempt above . Anyway , your answer is correct .
 

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