Equilibrium Problem: Solve Unknowns w/ Total F & Moment

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The discussion revolves around an equilibrium problem involving forces and moments in a static system. Participants are analyzing the relationships between various unknown forces, including reaction forces at points A and B, and the tension in a rope, while applying the principles of static equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the number of unknowns and the relationships among them. Questions about the solvability of the problem arise, particularly regarding the number of equations available to solve for the unknowns.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to express the unknown forces in terms of their components and angles, suggesting that the problem may be solvable with the right approach. Others express uncertainty about the validity of their calculations and the specificity of their results.

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There is a mention of known forces, specifically a 400 N force, which should not be counted as an unknown. The angles associated with the reaction forces are also noted, which may influence the setup of the equations.

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Homework Statement


The entire problem can be found in this image link.
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Homework Equations


Equilibrium so the usual:
Total F = 0, Total moment = 0


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure how we're supposed to find out the answer because there seems to be too many unknowns. I'm assuming the rope is an unknown tension force, and we also have 2 unknowns at point a and b.
 
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How many unknowns you have got exactly? How many relations do you find among them?

ehild
 
ehild said:
How many unknowns you have got exactly? How many relations do you find among them?

ehild

so there's the reaction force of point a, reaction force of point b, tension force of the rope, and the 400N force. so a total of 4 unknowns when one known.

Fy = 0 = -400N + Ay + T + By
Fx = 0 = Ax + Bx
M(@ rope) = (-1.2)(Ay) + (1.5)(-400N) + (2.5)(By)

which seems to be unsolvable...
 
The reaction forces at A and B are assumed to be perpendicular to the respective surfaces, so you can express Ax, Bx, Ay, and By in terms of A and B and the angles (45 degrees and 30 degrees). That will result in only 3 unknowns. With 3 equations, you can solve for the unknowns.
 
It seems unsolvable if you do not want to solve it.

The 400 N force is known, don't count it as unknown.
You can express the components of the reaction forces with their magnitude and angle. The angles are given, so you need to find only the magnitudes. That is two unknowns. The tension is the third.
You have written the torque with respect to the point where the rope is attached. It is correct, but you know it as the beam is in equilibrium.

M(@ rope) = (-1.2)(Ay) + (1.5)(-400N) + (2.5)(By)=??

ehild
 
Okay guys, I think I got it...

Here's my work:
Mc = 0 = (1.5m)(-400N) + (2.5)(Bcos30) + (-1.2)(Acos45)
Fy = 0 = (-400) + (Bcos30) + (Acos45) + T
Fx = 0 = (Bsin30) + (Asin45)

A = -152.3355
B = 215.4349
T = 321.15

I can't help but feel like I did wrong cause the answer is so specific but I don't really find anything wrong with the work.
 
Ax and Ay are opposite: Fx = 0 = (Bsin30) - (Asin45)

ehild
 

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