Estimating UVA & UVB from UVI index

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The discussion centers on estimating the amounts of UVA and UVB radiation based on the UVI index, particularly in the context of practical applications. Participants explore relationships between UVI and UV radiation, referencing research papers and questioning the validity of the established equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Simon introduces the topic by defining UVB and UVA and referencing two research papers that propose relationships between UVI and UV radiation.
  • Simon calculates UVB and UVA values based on a UVI of 6, leading to unexpectedly high radiation estimates, prompting him to question the validity of the research papers or his own calculations.
  • Another participant cites Wikipedia to suggest that the total UV radiation at ground level should be much lower than Simon's calculations, questioning the units used and suggesting latitude dependency in the relationships.
  • Simon later corrects the relationship from paper [1] based on communication with the author, stating that the correct equation is UVB = 0.189 UVI, leading to revised UVB and UVA values.
  • A subsequent post questions a potential numerical error in Simon's revised UVB calculation, suggesting it should be 1.13 instead of 1.3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the accuracy of the initial relationships or the revised calculations. There are multiple competing views regarding the validity of the research papers and the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the calibration of UVI and potential dependencies on factors such as latitude, which may affect the relationships discussed.

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Hi all,

I am interested in estimating the amount of UVA and UVB from the UVI index for parctical purposes.
I have found 2 research papers that shed some light on the matter (see [1][2]).
Let us define first UVB as the solar irradiance integral in the range 280-315mm
and UVA as the solar irradiance integral in the range 315-400mm

From [1] it is established that for zenith angles < 70deg the following relationship hold with an accuracy > 90%:
UVB[W/m2] = 18.9 UVI

From [2] it is established, for a specific region (Kuwait), that the relationship between UVA and UVB for zenith angles < 50deg is:
UVA = 41 UVB

Here comes the part where I hit the wall. Doing a simple google search on weather condition today in Kuwait, I get and UVI = 6, this would imply (for zenith angle < 50deg):

UVB = 113 W/m2
UVA = 4649 W/m2

This is way to much radiation in the UV band. Even at the Atacama Desert, full-spectrum irradiance values only go as high as ~1300W/m2

So I am left with 3 options (not mutually exclusive):
1. Paper [1] is wrong
2. Paper [2] is wrong
3. I am wrong

Any thoughs?

Thanx in advance!

Simon.

References:
[1] McKenzie et al. Relationship between UVB and erythemally weighted radiation
[2] Kollias et al. The value of the ratio of UVA to UVB in sunlight
 
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From Wikipedia "Ultraviolet":

"Sunlight in space at the top of Earth's atmosphere (see solar constant) is composed of about 50% infrared light, 40% visible light, and 10% ultraviolet light, for a total intensity of about 1400 W/m2 in vacuum.[20]

"However, at ground level sunlight is 44% visible light, 3% ultraviolet (with the Sun at its zenith), and the remainder infrared."

This suggests no more than about 40 W/m2 total uv at the surface.

Are you sure those units were W/m2?

Since everything hinges on the calibration of UVI, I'd look there first. A factor of nearly 20 doesn't leave much room for UVI to grow. Could the relations be for example latitude dependent?
 
Thank you for the answer John. I actually got in touch with the author paper [1] and there was a numeric error that propagated throughout the publication. The correct
relationship is:
UV-B [W/m2] = 0.189 UVI
So for the previous example (UVI = 6) , the correct result would be:
UV-B [W/m2] = 1.3
UV-A [W/m2] = 46.5

I would expect it to be dependent upon several factors but this are rough approximations. In the first case it has an error of 10% (assuming sza<70deg and 250<DU<400), I don't remember the details about the second.

All the best,

Simon.
 
I assume that second UV-B value should be 1.13 not 1.3?

Glad that things seem to be resolved. And good luck.
 

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