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The discussion revolves around evaluating the expression $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor$ using given bounds for logarithms of certain numbers in base $x$. Participants explore methods to derive the logarithm of 7 based on the provided inequalities for logarithms of 2, 3, and 5.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the difficulty in directly obtaining $\log_x 7$ from the given logarithmic bounds for 2, 3, and 5, suggesting an alternative approach using $\log_x 7.5$ and linear interpolation.
  • Another participant calculates bounds for $\log_x 48$ and $\log_x 50$, leading to the conclusion that $0.9 < \log_x 49 < 0.914$, which is used to derive bounds for $\log_x 7$.
  • It is proposed that since $49 = 7^2$, $\log_x 7$ can be expressed as $\frac{1}{2} \log_x 49$, leading to the conclusion that $0.45 < \log_x 7 < 0.457$.
  • From the derived bounds for $\log_x 7$, it is concluded that $45 < \log_x 7^{100} < 45.9$, suggesting that $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor = 45$.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is a consensus on the final evaluation of $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor$ being 45, the methods and reasoning leading to this conclusion involve differing approaches and interpretations of the logarithmic bounds.

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The discussion relies on the assumptions made about the logarithmic properties and the specific bounds provided, which may not cover all potential interpretations or methods for evaluating logarithms in this context.

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Given that

$0.375<\log_x 5<0.376$

$0.256<\log_x 3<0.257$

$0.161<\log_x 2<0.162$

evaluate $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor$.
 
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By brute force, we see that $x=73$ satisfy all of the inequalities, hence,
$$\lfloor\log_x{7^{100}}\rfloor$$
$$=\lfloor100\log_{73}{7}\rfloor$$
$$=45$$
 
anemone said:
Given that

$0.375<\log_x 5<0.376$

$0.256<\log_x 3<0.257$

$0.161<\log_x 2<0.162$

evaluate $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor$.
$0.470<\log_x 7.5=\log_x \dfrac {3\times 5}{2}=\log_x 3+\log_x 5 -\log_x 2 <0.471$
now I will use linear interpolation :
let:$y=\log_x 7$
$\dfrac {\log_x {7.5 -y}}{7.5-7}\approx \dfrac {\log_x {7.5 -\log _x 5}}{7.5-5}$
$ y \approx 0.453$
$\therefore \lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor=45$
 
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I t seemed not easy to get $\log_x 7,\, directly \,\, from ,\log _x 2, \log_x 3, and \log _x 5$
instead I get $\log_x 7.5$
so I use the method of linear interpolation
 
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anemone said:
Given that

$0.375<\log_x 5<0.376$

$0.256<\log_x 3<0.257$

$0.161<\log_x 2<0.162$

evaluate $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor$.
[sp]$\log_x 48 = 4\log_x2 + \log_x3 >4\times0.161 + 0.256 = 0.9$.

$\log_x50 = \log_x2 + 2\log_x5 < 0.162 + 2\times 0.376 = 0.914$.

Therefore $0.9 < \log_x49 < 0.914$. But $49 = 7^2$, so $\log_x7 = \frac12\log_x49$ and $0.45 < \log_x7 < 0.457$. Finally, $45 < \log_x 7^{100} < 45.9$ and so $\lfloor \log_x 7^{100} \rfloor = 45$.[/sp]
 
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Thank you all for participating and yes, 45 is the correct answer!:)
 

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