!Evidence of Star Formation in Molecular Clouds

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The discussion centers around the evidence for current star formation, particularly focusing on molecular clouds and nebulae as sites of this process. Participants explore various lines of evidence and examples related to star formation, including observational data and theoretical models.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for evidence of current star formation and specifically inquires about molecular clouds as star-forming regions.
  • Another participant mentions the Pleiades star cluster as an example of a relatively young star cluster, noting that its stars are estimated to be between 75 and 150 million years old.
  • A participant points out that the Pleiades was once thought to contain leftover dust from its formation, but it is now believed that the cluster is passing through a dusty region of the interstellar medium.
  • One participant highlights the Spitzer Telescope's findings of thousands of planetary disks in regions like the Orion nebula, suggesting these are areas of stellar accretion.
  • Another participant emphasizes the role of nebulae as stellar nurseries, describing the conditions that favor star formation, such as being dark and cold.
  • A participant describes evidence of stars that have recently begun hydrogen fusion, noting their bright appearance surrounded by dust and gas, indicating they are pushing material away.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the evidence for star formation, with some agreeing on the significance of nebulae and star clusters while others provide differing interpretations of specific examples. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the details and implications of the evidence presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on observational data and theoretical models that may have limitations or depend on specific definitions, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the nature of the materials in star-forming regions.

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What evidence do we have that stars are forming right now?

Molecular clouds? why do we know that molecular clouds are where stars form? any other lines of evidence? i know this is a big topic so a few reasons or a good link would be a good start for me to understand this big topic

thanks
 
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Though it is difficult to watch real-time, we can see stars in all stages of their lifespan, including formation itself. The Pleiades, for example, is a star cluster that formed relatively recently, the stars are young...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(star_cluster )
It is dominated by young, hot blue stars...

Ages for star clusters can be estimated by comparing the H-R diagram for the cluster with theoretical models of stellar evolution, and using this technique, ages for the Pleiades of between 75 and 150 million years have been estimated.
Heh - and learn something new every day. I thought the nebulosity of the cluster was left-over from its formation, but apparently not:
It was formerly thought that the dust was left over from the formation of the cluster, but at the age of about 100 million years generally accepted for the cluster, almost all the dust originally present would have been dispersed by radiation pressure. Instead, it seems that the cluster is simply passing through a particularly dusty region of the interstellar medium.
Here is a picture of "stellar nursery": http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960816.html
 
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Like Russ said, you can examine many different nebulae and see the different stages of star formation (the whole process is too long to watch). There's still a lot of virgin material out there ready to make new stars.
 
The Spitzer Telescope alone has found thousands (yes thousands) of planetary disks (stellar accretion areas).

The following is a recent survey of 2300 in the Orion nebula...

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2006-099
 
thanks Geo. Cam on ban nhe.
 
Yeh as the guys above have said you can look at nebulae which are, as I am sure you know, generally thought of as stellar nurseries due to it being a dark, cold environment which is good for star forming (stellar winds push protostar material away).

Evidence for recently 'turned on' stars (hydrogen fusion begun) is say a star in a nebula which is glowing brightly but tightly surrounded by dust and gas save for a small pocket just outside the star, showing it is in the process of pushing this material away

dunno if that helps
 

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