Existing work on finite element result analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the analysis of finite element method (FEM) results, particularly how these results compare to analytical solutions. Participants explore existing literature, resources, and examples that address this topic, focusing on validation and verification processes rather than the FEM methods themselves.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about existing work that specifically analyzes finite element results in relation to analytical solutions.
  • It is suggested that while comparing FEM results to analytical solutions is important, this practice is often not detailed in literature, as it is typically the analyst's responsibility to ensure result accuracy.
  • Participants mention that benchmark problems for various software, including open-source solvers like Code_Aster, often include analytical solutions for verification purposes.
  • There are suggestions to compute analytical solutions for finite element discretizations of simple problems and compare them to the original differential equations.
  • Some participants reference specific literature on validation and verification in scientific computing, noting that while these resources exist, they may not directly address the OP's request for analytical solutions to simple FEM cases.
  • There is a discussion about the availability of resources and examples related to Code_Aster, including questions about its compatibility with Windows and requests for lists of examples without needing to click through links.
  • One participant expresses a broader interest in explanations and verification of non-analytical solutions, not limited to analytical ones.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement on the importance of validation and verification in FEM analysis, but there is no consensus on the availability of specific resources or examples that meet the OP's criteria. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the adequacy of existing literature for the OP's needs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that while there are resources available, they may not directly address the specific request for analytical solutions in simple FEM cases. Additionally, there are mentions of language barriers in some resources.

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Is there any existing work focusing on analyzing finite element visualized results and how they differ from analytical solutions, rather than on the method?
 
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Well, that's something one should do whenever possible but it's usually not described in books/articles as it's the role of analyst to ensure that results are correct. And it's done not only by comparing with analytical values. Anyway, if you are looking for particular examples then check benchmark problems for various software (including open-source solvers like Code_Aster). They often include analytical solution as their purpose is to verify the correctness of FEA results.
 
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You can also compute the analytical solution of the finite element discretization for simple problems and compare that with the analytical solution of the original differential equation. And probably any paper that introduces a new feature of a finite element method will show results for problems with analytical solutions.
 
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FEAnalyst said:
Well, that's something one should do whenever possible but it's usually not described in books/articles as it's the role of analyst to ensure that results are correct. And it's done not only by comparing with analytical values. Anyway, if you are looking for particular examples then check benchmark problems for various software (including open-source solvers like Code_Aster). They often include analytical solution as their purpose is to verify the correctness of FEA results.
thanks, is code_aster supported in windows?
 
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caz said:
There is literature on validation. For example
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521113601/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Oberkampf and Roy - Verification and Validation in Scientific Computing
Yeah, but it’s about mathematical methods of validating/verifying solutions of PDEs and general ways to check physics simulation results (another book like that: "Finite Element Analysis. Method, Verification and Validation" by Szabo and Babuska). Here the OP is looking for analytical solutions of simple FEA cases. Some books with examples of analyses in particular software feature analytical solutions but unfortunately it’s rare. One such book is "Analysis of Machine Elements Using SolidWorks Simulation 2021" by Nudehi and Steffen.
 
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FEAnalyst said:
Yeah, but it’s about mathematical methods of validating/verifying solutions of PDEs and general ways to check physics simulation results (another book like that: "Finite Element Analysis. Method, Verification and Validation" by Szabo and Babuska). Here the OP is looking for analytical solutions of simple FEA cases. Some books with examples of analyses in particular software feature analytical solutions but unfortunately it’s rare. One such book is "Analysis of Machine Elements Using SolidWorks Simulation 2021" by Nudehi and Steffen.
Thanks a lot and these are much needed really. I'm not necessarily looking for analytical solutions only, but explanations and verification of non-analytical ones.
 

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