Extending a Set of 3 Orthogonal Vectors to a Basis in R^5

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The discussion revolves around the question of how to extend a set of three orthogonal vectors to form a basis in \( \mathbb{R}^5 \). Participants explore the implications of linear independence and the Gram-Schmidt process, as well as the requirements for spanning the entire space of \( \mathbb{R}^5 \).

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about extending three linearly independent vectors to span all of \( \mathbb{R}^5 \) and questions the possibility of achieving this with only three vectors.
  • Another participant suggests that it is indeed possible to find two additional vectors that, when combined with the three given vectors, will form a set of five linearly independent vectors.
  • A different participant prompts the original poster to verify the independence of the three vectors provided and hints at the existence of a simple basis for \( \mathbb{R}^5 \) that could be utilized.
  • There is a reiteration of the idea that the goal is not necessarily to create an orthonormal basis, but simply to achieve linear independence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that it is possible to extend the set of three vectors to form a basis in \( \mathbb{R}^5 \), but there is some uncertainty regarding the original poster's understanding of the question and the independence of the vectors.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the independence of the three vectors mentioned, and the discussion does not resolve whether the original poster's interpretation of the question was correct.

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I've attached the question to this post. The answer is true, but I'm trying to figure out why.

Using Gram-Schmidt, I can only necessarily find 3 orthogonal vectors given 3 linearly independent vectors from ## R^5 ##. How then is it possible to extend this set of 3 vectors that are linearly independent to form a basis of ## R^5##? Unless I'm missing something here, the question is asking if this set can be extended to span ALL of ## R^5 ## (i.e. a basis of this space) and not just a subspace, correct? How exactly can 3 vectors do this? I believe recalling an analog to the cross product in ##R^5## but we surely did not cover this in our class. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

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The point is that it is possible to find two vectors which added to the given three form a set of five linearly independent vectors. Example: (1,0,0,0,0) and (0,1,0,0,0) should work.
 
Have you checked to see whether these three vectors are independent? If they are, what would that tell you? (Hint: you should know a very simple basis for [itex]\mathbb{R}^5[/itex]. If these are independent throw these vectors in with that basis and use your knowledge about how a basis works). Note that nothing in the question says you need to end up with an orthonormal basis at the end.

If you haven't checked to see if these are independent, do so first: Try starting
[tex] \begin{align*}<br /> x = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 & 1 & 1 & 5 \end{bmatrix} & \\<br /> y = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 \end{bmatrix} & \\<br /> z = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 4 & 9 & 16 & 25 \end{bmatrix}<br /> \end{align*}[/tex]

Then see whether the equation [itex]ay + bz = x[/itex] has any non-trivial solutions.
 
mathman said:
The point is that it is possible to find two vectors which added to the given three form a set of five linearly independent vectors. Example: (1,0,0,0,0) and (0,1,0,0,0) should work.

Ahh, ok. Thank you. I misinterpreted what they were asking.
 

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