Factorize: (n^2 + 2n +3 ) / (2n^3 + 5n^2 + 8n +3)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factorization of the expression (n^2 + 2n + 3) / (2n^3 + 5n^2 + 8n + 3). Participants explore methods to simplify the expression, including completing the square and identifying factors in the numerator and denominator.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in factorizing the expression and seeks advice on completing the square or cube.
  • Another participant suggests setting up simultaneous equations to find values for a and b in the factorization of the numerator.
  • A participant proposes rewriting the numerator as (n+1)^2 + 2, indicating an alternative approach to the problem.
  • There is a suggestion to divide the numerator and denominator by 2n + 1 to simplify the expression.
  • A later reply confirms a successful factorization, stating that 2n^3 + 5n^2 + 8n + 3 can be expressed as (2n + 1)(n^2 + 2n + 3), leading to a simplified result of 1/(2n + 1).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial approach to the problem, but there is agreement on the final factorization provided by one participant. Some methods are proposed, but the discussion includes various perspectives on how to tackle the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants may have different assumptions about the methods of factorization, and there is a lack of clarity on the completeness of the steps involved in the factorization process.

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I have a really bad time thinking on this:

Factorize:

(n^2 + 2n +3 ) / (2n^3 + 5n^2 + 8n +3) such that we end up with 1/(2n +1).

I might be forgetting how to complete the square or the cube or something but I can not find a way to reduce it.

Any advice?
 
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You should be able to factor the numerator. Do you know how to set up the two simultaneous equations to figure out the a and b in (n+a)(n+b) = n^2+[a+b]n+[a*b] ?
 
Answer

Say for n^2 + 2n + 3 we can write it as (n+1)^2 + 2, so we have that (n+1)(n+1) + 2 = n^2 + 2n + 3
 
You are told that you must wind up with an extra factor of 2x+1 in the denominator. Is it that hard to divide n2 + 2n +3 and 2n3 + 5n2 + 8n +3 by 2n +1?
 
jetoso said:
Say for n^2 + 2n + 3 we can write it as (n+1)^2 + 2, so we have that (n+1)(n+1) + 2 = n^2 + 2n + 3
LOL, that's so much better a way to start. I suggested the brute strength way to start, but spaced the alternate constant form. Good stuff jetoso.
 
I got it

Well, I think I did not pay too much attention to this problem, it is very straight forward by the way, look:

2n^3 + 5n^2 + 8n + 3 = (2n + 1) (n^2 + 2n + 3)

Thus, since the numerator is n^2 + 2n + 3, then it follows that:

(n^2 + 2n + 3)/(2n + 1) (n^2 + 2n + 3) = 1/(2n + 1)


Sorry to bother you about this.
Thanks!
 

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