Fatigue analysis with JIS standard book

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around specific terms used in fatigue analysis, particularly in the context of crane design as per the JIS standard. Participants seek clarification on the mean stress correction factor, plate thickness correction factor, and redundancy factor, as well as their implications in fatigue strength calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the definitions and applications of the mean stress correction factor, plate thickness correction factor, and redundancy factor in fatigue analysis.
  • One participant shares specific equations from the JISB8821 standard, indicating that the values for Cr, Ct, and γ are taken as 1.0 in their analysis.
  • Another participant explains that the mean stress correction factor (Cr) is calculated differently depending on whether the stress ratio (R) is negative or not, affecting the allowable stress range (Δσr).
  • It is noted that the plate thickness correction factor (Ct) reduces Δσr for plates thicker than 25 mm, while it is regarded as 1 for plates 25 mm or less.
  • Participants discuss the redundancy factor (γ), which can vary between 0.80 and 1.25 based on structural integrity considerations, but is often set to 1 in typical scenarios.
  • One participant requests simpler explanations or examples for the three terms, indicating difficulty in understanding the technical details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and applications of the terms discussed, but there is a lack of consensus on the clarity of these concepts, as some participants express difficulty in understanding them.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions and applications of the correction factors and redundancy factor may not be fully articulated, and the discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the JIS standards among participants.

Ridzuan
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Dear guys
can somebody explain, what is actually the following terms, used in fatigue analysis:

1. Mean stress correction factor
2. Plate thickness correction factor
3. Redundancy factor

Thanks guys. you are the best...
 
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Ridzuan said:
Dear guys
can somebody explain, what is actually the following terms, used in fatigue analysis:

1. Mean stress correction factor
2. Plate thickness correction factor
3. Redundancy factor

Thanks guys. you are the best...
Please post links to the reading you have been doing so far about those terms, and ask specific questions about what you are not understanding in that reading. Thanks.
 
berkeman said:
Please post links to the reading you have been doing so far about those terms, and ask specific questions about what you are not understanding in that reading. Thanks.
I am doing design review for RTG crane, manufactured by MITSUI Paceco. In the technical document submission, they are providing the fatigue analysis. I am cross checking the analysis with JIS standard book, JISB8821:Calculation standards for steel structures of cranes. The equations as below:Mean stress correction factor, Cr
= 1.3 (1-R) / (1.6-R)
= 1.0
R is stress ratio

Plate thickness correction factor, Ct
= 4√ (25 / t)
= 1.0
t is plate thickness

Redundancy factor, ƴ
= 1.0

The Japanese took the Cr, Ct and ƴ value as 1.0 and use the values as input into the GT-STRUDL program.
 
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Hi! Ridzuan. I'm an engineer of a Japanese crane maker.

If the structure is exposed to reversed stress, R takes a negative value.
Reversed stress state is not favorable for the fatigue strength.
To reduce allowable stress range(Δσr), Cr is calculated by above formula.
But if R is zero or more, then it is not reversed stress state, and Cr is regarded as 1 and the reducing won't be done.

Also, the thicker plate is the worse fatigue strength.
If t is more than 25 mm, Δσr is reduced by Ct.
For 25 mm or less, Ct is regarded as 1.

γ can take a value within 0.80 to 1.25, it is considered from the influence of corruption of the structure, importance of the part, and ease of inspection.
It affects the design stress amplitude (Δσd).
Except for unusual circumstances, We often use 1 as γ.
 
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kotaro yamashita said:
Hi! Ridzuan. I'm an engineer of a Japanese crane maker.

If the structure is exposed to reversed stress, R takes a negative value.
Reversed stress state is not favorable for the fatigue strength.
To reduce allowable stress range(Δσr), Cr is calculated by above formula.
But if R is zero or more, then it is not reversed stress state, and Cr is regarded as 1 and the reducing won't be done.

Also, the thicker plate is the worse fatigue strength.
If t is more than 25 mm, Δσr is reduced by Ct.
For 25 mm or less, Ct is regarded as 1.

γ can take a value within 0.80 to 1.25, it is considered from the influence of corruption of the structure, importance of the part, and ease of inspection.
It affects the design stress amplitude (Δσd).
Except for unusual circumstances, We often use 1 as γ.

Hi Kotaro Yamashita. Nice to know you. I think I've found the right person, japanese crane maker engineer.
Thanks for the clarification. You are explaining very well.
Can you define those 3 terms in layman term... i am a mechanical engineer but i found it is hard to understand... a simple example will do.
 

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