Fatima: Did 70,000 people witness a miracle?

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On October 13, 1917, over 70,000 people in Fatima, Portugal, witnessed an event known as the Miracle of the Sun, where the sun reportedly danced and changed colors, as documented by various media representatives. Despite the large number of witnesses, skeptics argue that the phenomenon could be attributed to psychological factors such as mass suggestion or optical illusions rather than a supernatural event. Scientific evaluations have found no astronomical evidence to support the claims, suggesting alternative explanations like atmospheric conditions or retinal distortion. The Catholic Church officially recognized the event as a miracle in 1930, but debates continue regarding its nature and authenticity. The incident remains a focal point for discussions on faith, perception, and the intersection of science and religion.
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The parish priest in town, Fr. Ferrara, who first interviewed the children when this fake apparition got started, NEVER believed in the apparition, even after the so-called Miracle of the Sun. Apparently, Fr. Ferrara was not impressed as the rest of you with the newspaper reports or anything else that people today are using to say something happened there. (other than a brilliant Portugese sun coming out from between the clouds after a grey, cloudy and rainy morning).

After Fr. Formigao got involved, Fr. Ferrara, the parish priest, was pushed aside, and eventually he was sent off to "Siberia" never to be seen or heard from again, but what is recorded for history is that he never believed it, leaving out of the accounts that he never believed it even after the so-caled "Miracle of the Sun." This is most unusual because the parish priest is usually very, very important when it comes to the scrutiny, and what he believes carries great weight in approving apparitions. Not so in the case of Fatima. He never believed it, even after the so-called "Miracle of the Sun" and while his unbelief is recorded in the beginning, his unbelief AFTER the so-called Miracle of the Sun is ignored and not written about.

Historians also have problems accounting in books for what Lucia's mother thought about the whole matter. They try hard to ignore her altogether, but when they do mention her, it is to briefly say that she "eventually came to believe her daughter". There is no foundation in fact for this conclusion, for when she is quoted in the stories related it is to say loud and clear that her daughter is a liar and deserves a good beating, which she did..
 
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On last thing about this so-called "Miracle of the Sun" is that people reading about it believe that every individual holding a secular position in government was "anti-Catholic", and heaven-forbid, a "freemason." This was not true. As a Catholic, I do not get into a frenzy when I hear the word "freemason."

The procession ridiculing the BVM was criticized in the newspapers, by the government officials, and by most of the people in the town. The people and the officials were unanimous in the opinion that ithe procession was "disrespectful" and "wrong." The mayor did not want all these pilgrims congregating on this land because as the numbers grew, it was bound to cause disorder. He tried several ways to disperse the crowds and one of the ways was to prevent the children from going to the site at the "appointed time" (and he did this with the "help" of Fr. Ferrara). The mayor took the children in his carriage to his own home, where his wife gave them lunch and had them play with the mayor's own children. The adult people were up in arms, called it a kidnapping, and when Lucia got back home she came up with this story about being put in jail, and "dancing" with the criminals who were behind bars. The story itself is absurd. The mayor was a family man, who had chidlren of his own, and he said this story about putting the children in jail was a lie, and he gave account for what truly happened. I believe his account is more credible, and I do not believe Lucia who is already a proven liar and storyteller according to Fr. Ferrara and Lucia's mother.
 

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