Field Quantization: Confined in Cube or Whole Space?

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The discussion revolves around the procedure of field quantization, particularly focusing on the electromagnetic (EM) field and the implications of confining it within a finite cube versus considering the whole space. Participants explore the reasonableness of boundary conditions (B.C.) and their influence on quantization results.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the reasonableness of periodic or other boundary conditions, suggesting that these conditions may influence the final results of quantization.
  • There is a proposal that the cube may not be necessary, and that a continuous decomposition in the whole space could be considered instead.
  • One participant notes that periodic and box boundary conditions lead to discrete energies and have historically simplified problems associated with continuous spectra.
  • Another participant mentions that box quantization provides a pathway to understanding the concept of "photon," avoiding complications in quantizing gauge classical field theories.
  • Participants highlight that boundary conditions can significantly affect physical phenomena, citing the Casimir force as an example where boundary conditions matter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of boundary conditions in field quantization, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions behind the use of boundary conditions and the implications of transitioning from a finite cube to whole space in the context of quantization.

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I see in many textbooks that all authors start field quantization with EM field confined in a cube of finite size, certainly some B.C. is imposed, usually periodic B.C., finally the cube goes to whole space.

I have some questions on this procedure:
1, Is periodic(or other) B.C. reasonable? Doesn't the B.C. have any influence on final results?
2, Is this cube necessary? Why not just do the decomposition in the whole space(continuous decompostition spectrum encounterd?)?

I heared that this method of quantizing EM field was originally proposed by Dirac in his Lectures on Quantum Field Theory. Would anyone be kind enough to share it?

Thank you all for attention!:smile:
 
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Periodic and box boundary conditions lead to discrete energies. They have been used in virtually all branches of physics, to simplify some of the problems associated with continuous spectra. You can find discussions of this in virtually any text on QM or QFT -- this trick goes back many, many years, before 1900, for many types of boundary value problems as well.

These days, working directly with the continuous spectra is more in vogue.

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Reilly Atkinson.
 
Box quantization for the EM field simply is a nice way to get to the concept of "photon" by evading the headaches one gets when he tries to quantize a gauge classical field theory described in [itex]\mathbb{M}_{4}[/itex].

Daniel.
 
One obvious phenomenon where the boundary conditions do matter is the Casimir force.
 
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Physics Monkey said:
One obvious phenomenon where the boundary conditions do matter is the Casimir force.

Then sometimes the boundary conditions do make a difference.
 

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