Figuring pH of .20M NH3 and .35M NH4Cl

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pH of a solution containing 0.20M NH3 and 0.35M NH4Cl, focusing on the application of buffer solution concepts and the Henderson–Hasselbalch equation. Participants explore the calculations involved and the identification of species in the solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to calculate the pH using the concentration of OH- produced by NH3 and the dissociation of NH4Cl, leading to a calculated pH of 11.27.
  • Another participant identifies the solution as a buffer and references the Henderson–Hasselbalch equation, expressing confusion over the calculations leading to the same pH result.
  • There is a challenge regarding the identification of the base and its conjugate acid, with a participant indicating that the initial assumptions about OH- and H+ may be incorrect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the solution is a buffer, but there is disagreement regarding the calculations and the identification of the relevant species involved in the pH calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the molarity used in calculations and the proper identification of the base and conjugate acid in the context of the buffer solution.

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Students and individuals interested in buffer solutions, pH calculations, and the application of the Henderson–Hasselbalch equation in chemistry.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the pH of a solution that is .20M NH3 and .35M NH4Cl with a Kb(NH3)=1.8x10^-5


The Attempt at a Solution


So first calculated the M of OH- produced by the NH3,
[OH-]=√((1.8x10^(-5))x.20) = 1.9x10^-3

Since NH4Cl will dissociate in H2O it will leave NH4+, NH4+ + H2O ---> NH3 + H30+
Ka would be [1x10^(-14)]/[1.8x10^(-5)] = 5.6x10^(-10) giving us a rather insignificant amount of hydronium produced compared to the amount of OH- from the NH3 but let's figure it none the less,

[H3O] = √(5.6x10^(-10))x.35 = 1.4x10^(-5)
Since the hydronium will react with the OH- subtracting the two gives us 1.88x10^-3M OH-
giving us a pOH of 2.73, or pH of 11.27

The answer is pH 9.01 so I am waaaaay off.
This is new stuff for my brain and that's the excuse I'm sticking with :)
 
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This is a buffer solution.
 
Borek said:
This is a buffer solution.

I was breaking it down a little further than the Henderson–Hasselbalch equation so I can get a better conceptual understanding.

The following is correct for that equation is it not?

pH = pKa + log (base/acid)
so pH = 4.74 + log [1.9x10^(-3)]/[5.6x10^-10]

I still get 11.27pH, yikes!

I must be screwing up on the molarity, do you see where I put my marbles on this thing Borek?
 
Your problem is with the identification of the base and its conjugate acid. These are not OH- and H+.
 
Borek said:
Your problem is with the identification of the base and its conjugate acid. These are not OH- and H+.

Blamo, Marbles found! :)
 

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