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The discussion focuses on calculating the amount of NH4Cl needed to create a buffer solution with a pH of 9 using a 25mL 0.10M NH3 solution. The correct approach involves applying the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, which requires converting Kb to pKa using the formula pKa + pKb = 14. The user initially struggled with ICE tables but was advised that using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation is more efficient for buffer calculations. The final answer for the concentration of NH4+ needed is 0.18M.

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I don't understand how to do this problem, but i Understand how to do the reverse of it.

"You have 25mL of 0.10M nh3 solution. How many grams of nh4Cl do you need to add to make a buffer with a ph of 9?) answer is 0.18M of nh4+.

What I've done is set up the initial table.
nh3 + h20 ----> nh4+ oh-
I 0.10 0.10
C-x +x x

edit::(this table is posting wrong.. but you get the point... x is on nh4 and oh h2o is neglected)
E0.10-10^-9 (keeping values same basically)

Second thing i did was solve x by doign the antilog of the -ph.
giving me 1*10^-9. which i believe is correct.

kb for nh4 is 1.8*10^-5.

I set up this : 1.8*10^-5 = 0.10x/ 0.10

End up getting the same answer as the constant. Cant be right, what am i doing wrong when the ph of the buffer is given?
 
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Nelo said:
I don't understand how to do this problem, but i Understand how to do the reverse of it.

"You have 25mL of 0.10M nh3 solution. How many grams of nh4Cl do you need to add to make a buffer with a ph of 9?) answer is 0.18M of nh4+.

What I've done is set up the initial table.
nh3 + h20 ----> nh4+ oh-
I 0.10 0.10
C-x +x x

edit::(this table is posting wrong.. but you get the point... x is on nh4 and oh h2o is neglected)
E0.10-10^-9 (keeping values same basically)

Second thing i did was solve x by doign the antilog of the -ph.
giving me 1*10^-9. which i believe is correct.

kb for nh4 is 1.8*10^-5.

I set up this : 1.8*10^-5 = 0.10x/ 0.10

End up getting the same answer as the constant. Cant be right, what am i doing wrong when the ph of the buffer is given?

Have you covered the Henderson Hasselbach equation in class?
 
No, we have not. we don't use pKa values at all. We simply have covered simple buffers. However I don't understand how to solve this question.. and apparently normal buffer questions when mol/L are different
 


Using ICE tables for buffer calculations - while sometimes possible - is a waste of time. There is a much better tool for that - Henderson-Hasselbalch equation.

This question is quite easy to solve - convert Kb to pKa (pKa + pKb = 14, pKb = -log(Kb)), plug everything given into HH equation, and solve for the only unknown - [HN4+].

Please don't ignore capital letters in formulas, they are there to avoid ambiguity. co doesn't meant anything as CO and Co are completely different things.
 

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