Find a Mistake in Proof: 0,1,2,3 are All Even

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The discussion revolves around a proof claiming that all natural numbers (0, 1, 2, 3, ...) are even, using mathematical induction. Participants analyze the validity of the proof and identify potential mistakes in the inductive reasoning applied.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a proof by induction claiming that all natural numbers are even, starting with the base case of n = 0.
  • Another participant suggests testing the argument specifically for the transition from k = 0 to k = 1.
  • It is noted that if k is even, then k + 1 must be odd, challenging the inductive step.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the proof is valid if interpreted as assigning a subscript to even numbers, leading to a peculiar result based on that interpretation.
  • Several participants point out that the proof fails because it incorrectly assumes k is greater than 1 when evaluating the case for k = 0, particularly regarding the status of 1 as even.
  • It is emphasized that the inductive step must be independent of the specific value of k, which is not the case in the presented argument.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the proof, with multiple competing views on where the mistake lies and how the inductive reasoning should be applied. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the proof's validity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the inductive argument, particularly concerning the assumptions made about the values of k and the implications for the inductive step. There is also a lack of consensus on how to interpret the proof's structure.

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Basically I need to find a mistake in this "proof".

I claim that 0,1,2,3...are all even.

I will use induction to prove that 'n is even' for n = 0,1,2,3...
Base case is n = 0, which is true, 0 is even. I assume that the statement is true for
n = 0,1,2,3...,k and consider n = k+1. By assumption, 1 and k are both even, and thus k+1 is even as well. This means that n = 0,1,2,3... are all even.

I can't seem to find a hole in the proof. I know that 1 is not even and when we add 1 to an even number, we get an odd number. But, by assumption 1 is even, so, what do I do know ?:-p
 
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Try your argument when getting from k = 0 to k = 1.
 
If k is even, then k+1 is odd...
 
There is nothing wrong in you proof...wat you are doing is dat you are assigning a subscript for each even number so A0=0, A1=2...so by induction you r getting this peculiar result which is for the subscript...:smile:
 
As LCKurtz said, the problem is between 0 and 1. You seem to be tacitly assuming that k is greater than 1 when you say that 1 is even by the inductive hypothesis. But for k=0, this isn't true since k+1=1.
 
spamiam said:
As LCKurtz said, the problem is between 0 and 1. You seem to be tacitly assuming that k is greater than 1 when you say that 1 is even by the inductive hypothesis. But for k=0, this isn't true since k+1=1.

More accurately, his argument fails because he can't choose 1 and k > 1 to add together in the induction step because there is no such k.

The real lesson in this example is that in induction arguments, the induction step must be independent of the value of k, which it isn't in this argument.
 

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