Find Equation of Point P Moving at Distance 4 from (-2,3)

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a point P(x,y) that moves at a distance of 4 from the fixed point (-2, 3). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of the geometric implications of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the formula for the distance between two points in a plane, with some expressing confusion about identifying the distance and points involved.
  • There is a suggestion to plug in the distance value into the distance formula, leading to the equation \(42=(x+2)^2+(y-3)^2\).
  • One participant recognizes that the derived equation represents a circle, while another suggests leaving the equation in standard form as \((x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\).
  • Participants explore the implications of the equation, including verifying a specific point on the circle and discussing the geometric interpretation of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the interpretation of the problem as defining a circle, but there is some confusion and uncertainty regarding the steps to derive the equation and the implications of the distance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the problem statement and the steps involved in deriving the equation, indicating potential limitations in understanding the distance formula and its application.

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Hello everyone.. I need your help to solve this problem.

A point P(x,y) moves in such a way that its distance from (-2, 3) is 4. Find the equation.

Thanks
 
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Do we have any kind of formula for the distance between two points in a plane?
 
d2 = (x2-x1)2+(y2-y1)2
 
ramz said:
d2 = (x2-x1)2+(y2-y1)2

Yes, now can you identify $d$, and the two points, one fixed and the other arbitrary?
 
MarkFL said:
Yes, now can you identify $d$, and the two points, one fixed and the other arbitrary?

Maybe, I don't think so. .
 
ramz said:
Maybe, I don't think so. .

Well, let's start with the distance $d$ we want to exist between the two points...what should that be? What does the problem say it should be?
 
MarkFL said:
Well, let's start with the distance $d$ we want to exist between the two points...what should that be? What does the problem say it should be?

I don't know. Honestly, I'm confused with the problem.
 
ramz said:
I don't know. Honestly, I'm confused with the problem.

Let's look at the problem statement:

A point P(x,y) moves in such a way that its distance from (-2, 3) is 4. Find the equation.

I have highlighted the information regarding what the distance is to be...so plug that in for $d$, and what do we have now?
 
MarkFL said:
Let's look at the problem statement:

A point P(x,y) moves in such a way that its distance from (-2, 3) is 4. Find the equation.

I have highlighted the information regarding what the distance is to be...so plug that in for $d$, and what do we have now?

Is this the next move?
42=(x+2)2+(y-3)2
 
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ramz said:
Is this the next move?
42=(x+2)2+(y-3)2

Yes, that's it!

The distance $d$ is 4, and you have let:

$$\left(x_2,y_2\right)=(x,y)$$

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)=(-2,3)$$

You could of course reverse the two points. Do you recognize the equation you have derived? What does it represent? What plane curve is defined as the set of all points equidistant from some central point?
 
  • #11
MarkFL said:
Yes, that's it!

The distance $d$ is 4, and you have let:

$$\left(x_2,y_2\right)=(x,y)$$

$$\left(x_1,y_1\right)=(-2,3)$$

You could of course reverse the two points. Do you recognize the equation you have derived? What does it represent? What plane curve is defined as the set of all points equidistant from some central point?

x2+y2+4x+6y-3 = 0
Equation of a circle.
So, what could be the points?
 
  • #12
I would leave the equation in the standard form:

$$(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2$$

where the center of of circle is $(h,k)$ and the radius is $r$. All of the points $(x,y)$ on the circle will satisfy the given equation. Let's examine our equation:

$$(x+2)^2+(y-3)^2=4^2$$

We know that the point 4 units directly above the center is on the circle...and this point is $(x,y)=(-2,7)$ so we should be able to plug this into the equation and get an identity (something that is true). So, let's try it:

$$(-2+2)^2+(7-3)^2=4^2$$

$$0^2+4^2=4^2$$

$$4^2=4^2$$

This is true. :D
 
  • #13
The distance from (-2, 3) is 4 is the same thing as saying a circle with radius with its center at (-2, 3).
Although not necessarily true, it states clearly that a point P(x, y) moves in such a way.
A nice circle geometry problem, indeed!
 

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