Find Frequency of Molecular Vibration for Melanin, Serotonin, & Insulin

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The discussion revolves around the concept of molecular vibration frequencies for specific molecules such as Melanin, Serotonin, and Insulin. Participants explore the intersection of chemistry and physics, particularly in relation to the potential application of these frequencies in music and healing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the topic is more aligned with chemistry or physics and seeks guidance on finding vibrational frequencies of molecules.
  • Another participant explains that molecules have multiple vibrational normal modes with different frequencies, which can be calculated based on molecular geometry and bond strengths.
  • This participant also notes that vibrational frequencies are much higher than audible sound frequencies, suggesting that sound waves cannot control molecular vibrations directly.
  • A different participant acknowledges the limitations of acoustic instruments but expresses a desire to understand and calculate these frequencies, questioning whether it can be done theoretically or if it requires laboratory work.
  • A further contribution references a CD that discusses the sounds of natural phenomena, including harmonic relations in molecules, suggesting an interest in the broader implications of sound and resonance.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of using music to control molecular vibrations, with some emphasizing the limitations of sound waves while others express a desire to explore the concept further.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the methods for calculating vibrational frequencies, including whether these calculations can be performed theoretically or if they necessitate experimental approaches.

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Molecular Vibration...

I'm not sure if this is a Chemistry question or a Physics question. Please take time to correct me if I have posted in the wrong area.

How do you find the frequency which a certain molecule vibrates?

Like Melanin, or Serotonin, or Insulin.

My brother and I are musicians and have long wanted to make the idea of healing with music a reality. The idea is if you can play with the harmonic resonance of a molecule then you can control it with music.

Anybody think they can point me in the right direction?
 
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A molecule composed of many atoms always has several vibrational normal modes that have different frequencies. The normal mode frequencies can be calculated if one knows the geometry of the molecule and the bond strengths (measure of how difficult it is to stretch a chemical bond).

The vibrational frequencies of molecules are many orders of magnitude larger than acoustic frequencies, so there's no point in trying to use sound waves to control molecular vibration. If you want to excite a vibrational mode, you have to expose the molecule to infrared radiation of correct wavelength.
 
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I appreciate your reply.

I am aware that the vibration of molecules is beyond natural hearing, and direct control is not possible through limitations of acoustic instruments. I do believe that those frequencies can be transposed to be understood.

I just need a way get the frequencies so I can. So is there a way to calculate the vibrational frequencies with pen and paper or is this an issue for the laboratory?
 
I remember a very nice CD "Die Welt ist Klang" (The world is sound) by Joachim-Ernst Berendt where the sounds of all kinds of natural phenomena where played, among them the drumming of pulsars and there was also a section about the harmonic relations in some molecules.
There seems to be an english version, too:
"The World Is Sound: Nada Brahma: Music and the Landscape of Consciousness"
 

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