Find rate of change of the depth of water when the water is 8 ft deep

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The discussion revolves around finding the rate of change of the depth of water in a conical tank when the water is 8 ft deep. Participants explore the relationship between the volume of water and the depth, applying calculus to derive the rate of change based on the given inflow rate of water.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 introduces the problem, providing the dimensions of the conical tank and the formula for volume, along with the relationship between radius and height.
  • Post 3 continues the derivation, applying the chain rule to relate the rate of change of volume to the rate of change of height.
  • Post 5 reiterates the expression for the rate of change of height, but suggests a correction regarding the placement of π in the denominator.

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Participants generally agree on the setup and the mathematical approach, although there is a noted disagreement regarding the placement of π in the final expression.

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There are unresolved details regarding the correctness of the final expression for the rate of change of height, specifically the placement of π, which may affect the interpretation of the result.

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A conical tank (with the vertex down)

is $10 \text{ ft}$ across the top and $12 \text{ ft}$ deep.

If water is flowing into the tank at rate of $\displaystyle\frac{10 \text{ ft}^3}{\text{min}}$

Find the rate of change of the depth of the water when the water is $8 \text{ ft}$ deep.

$\displaystyle V=\frac{1}{3} \pi r^2 h$

$\displaystyle r=\frac{5}{12} h$

$\displaystyle\frac{dV}{dt}=\frac{10 \text{ ft}^3}{\text{min}}$

$
\displaystyle V=\frac{1}{3}\pi\left(\frac{5}{12} h\right)^2 h =\frac{25}{432} \pi h^3
$

$\displaystyle\frac{d}{dt}V=\frac{d}{dt}\frac{25}{432} \pi h^3$

want to see if this set up right so far before continue? h=depth
 
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Seems good to me.
 
so moving along..

$\displaystyle\frac{d}{dt}V=\frac{d}{dt}\frac{25}{ 432} \pi h^3$
then

$\displaystyle\frac{dV}{dt}=\frac{dh}{dt}\frac{75}{432}\pi h^2$$
\displaystyle\frac{dh}{dt}=\frac{dV}{dt}\frac{432}{75\pi h^2}=\frac{10 \text{ ft}^3}{\text{min}}\cdot\frac{432}{75\pi\cdot {(8\text{ft})^2}}

=\frac{9}{10}\pi \frac{\text{ft}}{\text{min}}
$

sorta seems reasonable...
 
Seems reasonable to me too :)
 
karush said:
$
\displaystyle\frac{dh}{dt}=\frac{dV}{dt}\frac{432}{75\pi h^2}=\frac{10 \text{ ft}^3}{\text{min}}\cdot\frac{432}{75\pi\cdot {(8\text{ft})^2}}

=\frac{9}{10}\pi \frac{\text{ft}}{\text{min}}
$
In the last expression, $\pi$ should be in the denominator.
 

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