Find the equation for a parabola given 3 points

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a parabola that passes through three specified points: (1,-2), (-3,10), and (4,31). The original poster mentions using triple elimination as a method to solve the problem.

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  • Participants discuss setting up a system of linear equations based on the given points. There are mentions of using linear algebra and matrix equations to solve for the coefficients of the parabola. Some participants express uncertainty about their comfort level with solving such systems.

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There is ongoing exploration of different methods to solve the system of equations, including matrix approaches and traditional elimination techniques. Some participants have successfully derived relationships between the coefficients, while others seek clarification on the triple elimination method.

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Participants note that the problem is set within a high school context, and there are expressions of uncertainty regarding the methods discussed, particularly around the concept of triple elimination.

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Homework Statement



Find an equation for a parabola that passes through the following points. To solve you must use triple elimination, you may check you answer any way you wish

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okay so the points given were (1,-2) (-3,10) and (4,31)
I got to the point of making equations to olve with but then my brain hit a wall. What do i need to do next?
-2=a+b+c
10=9a -3b +c
and
31= 16a +4b +c
 
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i really am not good at quadratics
 
Doodledawg said:

The Attempt at a Solution


okay so the points given were (1,-2) (-3,10) and (4,31)
I got to the point of making equations to olve with but then my brain hit a wall. What do i need to do next?
-2=a+b+c
10=9a -3b +c
and
31= 16a +4b +c

This is a system of linear equations. There are several ways to solve for a,b, and c. One way is to use linear algebra and set up a matrix equation "Ax=b". Where A is the matrix with coefficients, x is vector [a b c] and b is vector [-2 10 31]
\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 1 &amp; 1 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 9 &amp; -3 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 16 &amp; 4 &amp; 1 \end{array} \right)\]
Now, solve for x
 
What you found is now a system of three simultaneous equations in three unknowns (which you've set up correctly), those unknowns being the coefficients of the equation for your parabola. Are you comfortable with solving such systems?
 
im not very comforable with them
 
okay i got down to b=2a-3
but i don't know where to go from here
 
konthelion said:
This is a system of linear equations. There are several ways to solve for a,b, and c. One way is to use linear algebra and set up a matrix equation "Ax=b". Where A is the matrix with coefficients, x is vector [a b c] and b is vector [-2 10 31]
\[ \left( \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> 1 &amp; 1 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 9 &amp; -3 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 16 &amp; 4 &amp; 1 \end{array} \right)\]
Now, solve for x
I have to use triple elimination
 
okay i got the right answer with the matrices:
y=2x^2+x-5
but how do i find this through triple elimination?
 
Doodledawg said:
okay i got the right answer with the matrices:
y=2x^2+x-5
but how do i find this through triple elimination?
Could you explain what a triple elimination is? I've never heard this term before. Is this another name for Gaussian elimination?
 
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no it's the classic way of doing things, we do it in high school.

Ok, so you have 3 equations:

[1]. -2=a + b +c
[2]. 10=9a -3b +c
[3]. 31= 16a +4b +c

Eliminate a by using 9 * [1] - [2] and then 16 * [1] - [3]

(-18 = 9a + 9b + 9c) - (10 = 9a - 3b + c) ---> -28 = 12b + 8c [4]
(-32 = 16a + 16b + 16c) - (31= 16a +4b +c) ---> -63 = 12b + 15c [5]

eq [4] - eq [5], should be left with c now.

Now solve for c

Plug c back into [4]

Solve for b

Now use eq [1], plug back b and c

Solve for a
 
  • #11
yeah ok thx
im actually in high school and feel like a total idiot but thanks for helping me
i much appreciate it
 

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