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The discussion focuses on finding the sum of the real roots of the polynomial equation 2x^8 - 9x^7 + 20x^6 - 33x^5 + 46x^4 - 66x^3 + 80x^2 - 72x + 32 = 0. Participants share their solutions and methods for solving the equation, with a particular emphasis on the contributions from a user named Fallen Angel. The collaborative nature of the discussion highlights various approaches to tackling the problem. The conversation reflects appreciation for the shared insights and solutions. Ultimately, the goal is to accurately determine the sum of the real roots of the polynomial.
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Find the sum of the real roots for $2x^8-9x^7+20x^6-33x^5+46x^4-66x^3+80x^2-72x+32=0$.
 
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Hi,

It is easy to see that $1,2,1+i,1-i$ are roots of the polynomial.

The quotient of this polynomial over the corresponding factors is $p(x)=2x^4+x^3+5x^2+2x+8$.

It is clear that $p(x)>0, \ \forall x\geq 0$.

If $x\in [-1,0)$ then $|x^3+2x|<8$ so $p(x)>0$.

If $x<-1$ then $2x^4>|x^3|$ and $5x^2>|2x|$ so $p(x)>0$.

Hence the sum is 3.
 
Good solution by Fallen angel

here is mine

we have
$2x^8-9x^7+20x^6-33x^5+46x^4-66x^3+80x^2-72x+32=0$
= $2(x^8+ 16) -9(x^7+8x) +20(x^6+ 4x^2) -33(x^5+2x^3) + 46x^4=0$
or deviding by $x^4$ as x = 0 is not a solution we get
$2(x^4 + (\dfrac{2}{x})^4)-9(x^3 + (\dfrac{2}{x})^3)+20((x^2 + (\dfrac{2}{x})^2)-33(x (+\dfrac{2}{x}))+46 = 0$

now if we get $x+\dfrac{2}{x}=t$
we get
$x^2+(\dfrac{2}{x})^2=t^2-4$
$x^3+(\dfrac{2}{x})^3=t^3-6t$
$x^4+(\dfrac{2}{x})^4=t^4-8t + 8$

so given relation reduces to

$2(t^2-8t^2 +8) -9(t^3-6t) +20(t^2-4) - 33t + 46= 0$
or $2t^4-9t^3+4t^2+21t-18=0$
now we see that t = 1 and t = 3 are solutions and hence we get

$2t^4-9t^3+4t^2+21t-18=0$
= $2t^3(t-1) - 7t^2(t-1) -3t(t-1) + 18(t-1)=0$
or$(t-1)(2t^3-7t^2-3t+18) = 0$

gives a solution t = 1

or

$2t^3-7t^2- 3t + 18 = 0$ as 3 is a root we get
$2t^2(t-3) - t(t-3) - 6(t-3) = 0$
or $(t-3)(2t^2 - t^2-3) = 0$
so t = 3
or $2t^2 - t - 3 = 0 $
or $(2t-3)(t+1) = 0$
so t = 1 or 3 or - 1 or $-\dfrac{3}{2}$
now $t = x+ \dfrac{2}{x}$ and if x is positive then by AM GM inequality lowest value = $2\sqrt{2}$

or only possible value from above is
t = 3 (as t cannot be between -$2\sqrt{2}$ and $2\sqrt{2}$)
t = 3 gives x = 1 or 2 and so sum of real roots = 3
 
Thanks to both for participating and thanks too for posting the great solution to this challenge!:cool:
 
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