Finding Velocity as a Function of Time for a Particle with Retarding Force

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The problem involves a particle experiencing a retarding force that is proportional to the square root of its instantaneous velocity. The goal is to find an expression for the velocity of the particle as a function of time, given its mass and initial velocity.

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  • Participants discuss integrating the force expression and setting it equal to mass times acceleration. There are attempts to manipulate the equation and integrate, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the integration process and the presence of velocity on both sides of the equation.

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Several participants are exploring different integration techniques and questioning the validity of their approaches. There is a recognition that the equation is separable, and some guidance has been provided regarding the integration process, though no consensus has been reached on the correct method or outcome.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of the retarding force and the integration steps, particularly concerning the initial conditions and constants of integration. There is uncertainty about how to incorporate the initial velocity into the final expression.

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A retarding force acts on a particle with mass m and initial velocity v0 moving on a horizontal surface; this force is proportional to the square root of the instantaneous velocity of the particle:

Fr = -k*sqrt(v)

Find an expression for the velocity of the rock as a function of time.2. The attempt at a solution
I believe that this has to be solved through the integration of the force expression, possibly setting the right side equal to ma or m(dv/dt):

m*dv/dt = -k*sqrt(v)
dv/dt = -(k/m)*sqrt(v)

I don't know how to go about integrating this though, especially considering the v is present on both sides. I tried and this is the answer I got, though I doubt that it is correct:

v = (-3kt/m)^2 + vo

Thanks for any help!
 
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Where does the 3 come from? Could you show your integration please?
 
Now that I think about it I think it should be done this way (though I'm not sure of this either because it ends with the square root of -kt/m... so unless k is negative it's not real):

dv/dt = -(k/m)*sqrt(v)
v = -(k/m)*int[sqrt(v)]dt
v = -(k/m)*[t*sqrt(v)*(1/v)]
v = -(k/m)*(t/v)
v^2 = -kt/m
v = sqrt(-kt/m) + v0
 
No, that's not correct. You have a v on the right hand side, so cannot simply integrate the left hand side to give v. This is a separable equation: [tex]\frac{dv}{\sqrt{v}}=-\frac{k}{m}dt[/tex]. Can you solve this?
 
So you would integrate both sides with respect to t? If that is the case, I know that the right side will be -kt/m, but I do not understand how to perform the left side's integral.
 
Oh. You integrate the left side with respect to v and the right with respect to t? So
int[v^-1/2]dv=-kt/m + c
1/2v^1/2= -kt/m + c
v=sqrt[-2kt/m+c]

Would c somehow have to do with v0 then? Would it be

v=sqrt[-2kt/m] + v0 ?
 

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