Finite Universe: Viewing All Timelines of the Universe

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The discussion centers around the concept of a finite universe and the implications of viewing all timelines within it. Participants explore the nature of the universe, the Big Bang, and the possibility of an external space beyond the universe.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether moving far away from a finite universe would allow viewing all timelines, suggesting time could be treated as a spatial dimension.
  • Another participant asserts that there is no "outside of the universe," challenging the premise of the original question.
  • A participant proposes that the universe exists within a vast space of nothingness, suggesting it could be considered infinite while the universe itself is finite.
  • One participant hypothesizes that the Big Bang produced only a finite amount of matter and antimatter, implying the existence of a larger medium in which this finite universe expands.
  • Another participant emphasizes that mainstream cosmology does not support the idea of an external space and suggests that personal speculation is not appropriate for discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement on the nature of the universe and the implications of a finite versus infinite framework. There is no consensus on the validity of the speculative ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on personal speculation and may not align with established cosmological theories. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of space and the Big Bang that are not universally accepted.

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Say i move far away from the whole universe (Finite universe-assumed) Is it possible for me to look into all timeline of universe? Where the time (4th dimension)will just be a spatial dimension? Help me with a finite universe idea ..
 
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Vivek des said:
Say i move far away from the whole universe (Finite universe-assumed) Is it possible for me to look into all timeline of universe? Where the time (4th dimension)will just be a spatial dimension? Help me with a finite universe idea ..
There is no "outside of the universe" regardless of whether it is infinite or finite so your question has no answer.
 
The whole universe which we assume everything is must lie somewhere in a vast space.Where only nothingness remains which might not belong to our definition of universe. Why can't i just call it as an infinite space in which we (the universe) is finite?
 
Vivek des said:
The whole universe which we assume everything is must lie somewhere in a vast space.Where only nothingness remains which might not belong to our definition of universe. Why can't i just call it as an infinite space in which we (the universe) is finite?
You are mistaken. The universe is everything there is. Period.
 
phinds said:
You are mistaken. The universe is everything there is. Period.
I do get that.. I am not sure if I am right but my assumption is ..whats if Big Bang just produced only finite matter and anti matter. So(covering the fact that matter and anti matter amount should balance) the Big Bang itself had to happen somewhere in emptiness..(That's the reason why we expect matter and anti matter to balance each other).. This region of "Space" not sure if u should say space.. But the medium must have a volume bigger than the volume of matter and anti matter combined ..(classically to hold them) ..Then the matter expands as an after effect of Big Bang ..so by expand we mean it should expand some where in this medium.. So again assuming finite matter in universe there got to be a outside as well.. (Just a hypothesis) help me :)
 
@Vivek des, that is not how mainstream cosmology describes the universe. Since you're misusing the terms, we can explain to you what is meant by the Big Bang, the metric expansion of space, what assumptions are used and what are the theoretical foundations of the theory, but we can't discuss personal speculation. That's the forum rules, and they're enforced rather strictly.
 
Okay :) thanks for help
 
Vivek des said:
I do get that.. I am not sure if I am right but my assumption is ..whats if Big Bang just produced only finite matter and anti matter. So(covering the fact that matter and anti matter amount should balance) the Big Bang itself had to happen somewhere in emptiness..(That's the reason why we expect matter and anti matter to balance each other).. This region of "Space" not sure if u should say space.. But the medium must have a volume bigger than the volume of matter and anti matter combined ..(classically to hold them) ..Then the matter expands as an after effect of Big Bang ..so by expand we mean it should expand some where in this medium.. So again assuming finite matter in universe there got to be a outside as well.. (Just a hypothesis) help me :)
You are saying the same thing over again. It is still wrong, and as bandersnatch pointed out, such unsupportable personal speculation is against the forum rules.
 

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