Flickering Comet: A Science Fiction Idea Explored

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of a science fiction concept involving a comet with a nucleus made of concentric layers of ice and dust, potentially causing a flickering tail effect. Participants agree that while the idea of periodic outgassing is intriguing, synchronizing the loss of volatile materials from different layers is implausible. Alternative celestial objects like pulsars and quasars are suggested as more realistic options for achieving a flickering effect. The consensus emphasizes the importance of thematic elements in storytelling, suggesting that a layered well structure may be a viable narrative device.

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Crickity
Hi folks,

Had an idea for a science fiction story I'm writing, wondered if it would actually work in reality. Basically, if a comet's nucleus were comprised of concentric layers of ice and dust, would it produce a coma/tail in an on-and-off manner?

Would it outgas and stop, outgas and stop as the materials exposed to the sun cycled?

I am an astronomy buff, not an astronomer, and I am very aware of the difference. With that in mind, I thought I'd check before I put it to paper.
 
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Once you have a layer of dust on the surface, what do you want to happen? Either it loses material or it does not, but not both at the same time.

Even if that works, I don't see how it would lead to a "flickering" comet.

How do you want to use the comet in the story? Maybe there is an easier way.
 
I mean that the ices would burn off, creating a tail, then the dust would, extinguishing or diminishing the tail. It's constantly losing material, just different kinds of material.

It's a device about establishing a character as an astronomer with layers.
 
It's a device about establishing a character as an astronomer with layers.
What does that mean?

Every material will reflect a part of the sunlight.

If you want an object with periodic oscillations in brightness, rotation is a possible approach.
 
Crickity said:
I mean that the ices would burn off, creating a tail, then the dust would, extinguishing or diminishing the tail. It's constantly losing material, just different kinds of material.

It's a device about establishing a character as an astronomer with layers.

Here's my non-expert opinion...

Even if the comet was somehow created in layers, I can't see any obvious way that the rate of loss of the volatile stuff could be synchronized between different parts of the surface, so different layers would be active at different locations on the surface.

You might just about manage it if the only part which is losing material is some sort of band around a rotating section, although that's still quite implausible. It might work perhaps for a single loose "well" of layered material recently exposed, where the rest of the surface is relatively stable and inert.

Dust and ice can both create visible tails anyway, but different materials behave in different ways under the pressure of sunlight, so you might get split tails or multiple tails.

If it's fiction, you can invent some unlikely reason why it should work (perhaps involving heat pipe effects or similar which somehow have the effect of allowing each layer to be lost before the next one is started), but to be realistic I think anyone would normally consider this to be very surprising.
 
Does it have to be a comet? Pulsars seem a better option.
wiki said:
A pulsar (portmanteau of pulsating star) is a highly magnetized, rotating neutron star that emits a beam of electromagnetic radiation. This radiation can only be observed when the beam of emission is pointing toward the Earth, much the way a lighthouse can only be seen when the light is pointed in the direction of an observer, and is responsible for the pulsed appearance of emission. Neutron stars are very dense, and have short, regular rotational periods. This produces a very precise interval between pulses that range from roughly milliseconds to seconds for an individual pulsar.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar

Or Quasars
wiki said:
Some quasars display changes in luminosity which are rapid in the optical range and even more rapid in the X-rays. Because these changes occur very rapidly they define an upper limit on the volume of a quasar; quasars are not much larger than the Solar System.[4] This implies an astonishingly high energy density.[5] The mechanism of brightness changes probably involves relativistic beaming of jets pointed nearly directly toward us.
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(dailymail.co.uk
EDIT- The grainy pulsar pic might lead to bias so...
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Nice pictures,Enigman!
 
Very nice pictures!

Thanks for the replies guys.
The flickering isn't the hard bit, it was the layers. They're thematically important, so I'll work on a way to include them. A layered well is looking like the way to go. Pulsars are going to feature elsewhere though, errybody loves a good neutron star!
 

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