Calculating Fluid Displacement in a Multi-Fluid System

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The discussion revolves around calculating fluid displacement in a multi-fluid system involving a block of wood floating in water with oil poured on top. The original poster is uncertain about how to determine the mass of the fluid displaced when the system consists of two fluids with different densities, particularly without knowing the size of the jar.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply buoyancy principles to a floating object in two fluids, questioning how to adapt their calculations for differing fluid densities.
  • Some participants question the significance of the block's shape and volume, suggesting that these factors may influence the calculations.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of the block's volume, with different understandings of its dimensions being proposed.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring various interpretations of the problem and clarifying assumptions about the block's dimensions and shape. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of the block's volume on buoyancy, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with specific densities for the wood and oil, but there is uncertainty regarding the dimensions of the block and how they affect the calculations. The original poster has indicated a lack of clarity about the jar's size and the implications of the block's shape on the buoyancy calculations.

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i seem to be stuck on a problem which involves fluids of 2 different densities, and an object floating in/on them. A block of wood is floating in a jar of water. oil is then poured onto the water. how can i calculate the mass of "the fluid displaced" when it is composed of 2 different fluids, and i have no idea how large the jar is? i don't think i should average their densities, but i keep getting a wrong result.

for a floating (partially submerged) object, i can see that
FB = mg = (fraction submerged) (weight of fluid displaced by entire object)

= (fraction) (rho of fluid * Volume of object * g)

i have used this to find the fraction of an object which is above or below the surface. how can i change it to apply to 2 fluids with 2 different densities?

the specifics given:
rho(wood) = 500 kg/m^3
rho(oil) = 600 kg/m^3
v(wood) = (.01m)^3
question asks how deep oil layer is when it is 4 cm below the top of the block.[/CODE]
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I am not an engineering whiz, but isn't the shape of the block an essential element? Normally, the shape would be irrelevant, since bouyancy acts on the volume/mass, and is independent of shape. But you need to know when it is 4cm out of the water - a linear measurement.

If the block were 1 cm^2 and 1m tall, you would have a very different answer than if it were 100cm^2 and 5cm tall.

Do we assume it is a cube?


Also, when you say the block of wood has a volume of (.01m)^3, I can interpret that two ways:
.01m is equal to 1cm; 1cm^3 is 1 cubic cm
or
.01m^3 could be read as 1/100th of a cubic meter; which is 10000 cubic cm.


Something tells me this isn't about decimals. I'm going to assume the block is a cube.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and propose that the cube is not supposed to be .01m^3 (this would make the cube 21.544379972138894748806069367288cm on a side).
Nor it is supposed to be 1cm^3, since it could never float 4cm out of the water.

I'm going to say the cube is supposed to be 0.001m^3 - making it 10 cm on a side (and incidentally having a volume of 1 liter and a mass of 0.5kg).
 
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sorry if i was unclear, yes, the block is .01m per side, and a cube. and yes, the mass would be 0.5 kg. am i correct in saying that if this block were floating only on the water, that it would be submerged 50% ?
 
wow. sorry. 0.1 m per side, yes 10 cm per side, etc.
 

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