Former Chicago police officer wants his job back

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The discussion centers around the case of Anthony Abbate, a former Chicago police officer convicted of felony assault and battery, who is seeking reinstatement to his job. Participants explore the implications of his past actions, the appropriateness of allowing a convicted felon to serve in law enforcement, and the potential legal avenues he may pursue.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that Abbate should not be reinstated due to his felony conviction and the nature of his crime, suggesting he should not hold any position in public safety.
  • Others express concern about the implications of allowing a felon to return to law enforcement, questioning the safety of the public if he were to be in contact with them.
  • A few participants speculate that Abbate may be seeking reinstatement primarily for benefits such as health insurance and retirement, rather than a genuine desire to serve in law enforcement.
  • Some express disbelief that a convicted felon could become or remain a police officer, raising questions about the legal framework surrounding such cases.
  • There are humorous remarks about alternative jobs Abbate could pursue, suggesting that he might be better suited for roles outside of law enforcement.
  • Concerns are raised about the broader implications of his case, including the perception of law enforcement and the potential for similar individuals to exist within the police force.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether Abbate should be reinstated, with strong sentiments against his return to law enforcement expressed by many. There is no consensus on the legal aspects of his case or the implications for public safety.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the complexities of legal cases involving felons and law enforcement, noting that individual cases may be reviewed but expressing skepticism about the appropriateness of reinstating someone with Abbate's history.

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Anthony Abbate was convicted of felony assault and battery after a Feb 2007 incident where he severely beat a female bartender who had asked him to leave. He received a two year suspended sentence and was fired. Now he wants his job back. Should he get it?

http://chicagoist.com/2010/01/13/anthony_abbate_to_judge_gimme_a_sec.php
 
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nah, there's other things he could be doing

highest-paying-dirty-job-1.jpg
 
what do you think...
 
dacruick said:
what do you think...

I think he should have served prison time. As for for re-instating him, it should be out of the question, but as the article suggests, he may have a legal case!
 
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If he does get his job back, I can't imagine his supervisors would risk putting him in contact with the public.
 
Felons can be cops??
 
He should never again be in an official position in any public-safety field. Period.
 
He deserves to be homeless for the rest of his life.
Not only should he not have any power over anything, it scares me that there's more cops out there just like him, using their badge as a get out of jail free card.

Cops shouldn't be given leniency on committing crimes. They should even be punished more harshly than other people. If I attack you, you can defend yourself. If a cop attacks you, what do you do?
 
It gets worse. The Police wanted to file misdemeanor charges, but the DA stepped in and elevated the charges. The bar tender was the second person he assaulted that day at that location. Abbate was a 12 year veteran and was known to be violent and drink excessively.

As far as his legal case; I didn't think a convicted felon could become (or remain) a police officer. However, his lawyers obviously wouldn't be wasting their time unless there was something to be gained: if not reinstatement, possibly some kind of settlement. Lawyers don't work for nothing. Possibly they're being paid by the PBA (police union).

It's been said that in some places, cold nuclear fusion is easier than removing a veteran public service employee.

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Chicago.Police.Anthony.2.335957.html
 
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Proton Soup said:
nah, there's other things he could be doing

highest-paying-dirty-job-1.jpg

This is unfair to all the decent refuse collectors out there!
 
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Chi Meson said:
This is unfair to all the decent refuse collectors out there!

actually, it's kind of funny. the web page where i found that listed garbage collection as one of the top 10 best paying "dirty jobs". probably has to be a government job though, most of the collection here has been replaced with private companies.
 
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He shouldn't even be considered for a job in any kind of law enforcement job, even mall cop should be out of the question for him. If you're a convicted felon you lose your right to own or possesses a firearm. Maybe they could issue him a nerf gun if he does get his job back.
 
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He probably wants reinstatement in some sort of desk job so that he can hold onto his heath insurance and retirement benefits. Still, would anybody want to know that an unstable individual was working as a 911 dispatcher, trainer, or other public-safety job? Not me. He had his chance and blew it badly.
 
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Proton Soup said:
actually, it's kind of funny. the web page where i found that listed garbage collection as one of the top 10 best paying "dirty jobs". probably has to be a government job though, most of the collection here has been replaced with private companies.

Actually, from the same website I would recommend Dirty Job #1: Crime Scene Cleaner. He would get to be close to his cop buddies, and make himself useful at the same time. The pay isn't too shabby either - $75,000.
 
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turbo-1 said:
He probably wants reinstatement in some sort of desk job so that he can hold onto his heath insurance and retirement benefits. Still, would anybody want to know that an unstable individual was working as a 911 dispatcher, trainer, or other public-safety job? Not me. He had his chance and blew it badly.

Most felony convictions will prevent you from getting a public safety job, but upon your request they can review your case individually. I'm not sure if you guys would want an ex-felon who did home roberries working in EMS. Afterall, its not just what the public safety guys get to see in your house, its also access to your date of birth, SSN#, home address, etc.

Lets see, in last 5 years I've seen over 8000 patients. Thats access to over 8000 different date of births, social security numbers, home addresses, etc.
 
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Proton Soup said:
actually, it's kind of funny. the web page where i found that listed garbage collection as one of the top 10 best paying "dirty jobs". probably has to be a government job though, most of the collection here has been replaced with private companies.

"Private companies," right! Around here, private sanitation companies means ... you know, Sopranos, right? And if the towns handle sanitation, they then transfer it to, guess who? And whenever budgets are squeezed, guess what always seems to be "off the table"?
 
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there's NO way he should get his job back! that would be ludicrous!
 

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