Formula for Spiral Around Cone - Get Your Answer Here

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The discussion centers around finding a formula to describe a spiral formed around a conical shape. Participants explore different types of spirals, including those that represent shortest distances and "spring-like" spirals, with varying heights over time.

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  • One participant requests a formula for a spiral around a cone, suggesting that specific details should be defined as variables.
  • Another participant proposes that if the spiral represents the shortest distance, it can be visualized by unfolding the cone and drawing a straight line on the flat surface.
  • A different participant specifies interest in a "spring-like" spiral that starts at one end and extends infinitely, indicating a need for an equation that reflects this behavior.
  • One suggestion for a mathematical representation is a parametric equation, with specific functions provided for the coordinates.

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Participants have different interpretations of the type of spiral being discussed, with no consensus on a single formula or approach. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of the spiral and its mathematical representation.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the type of spiral and the definitions of the variables involved. The mathematical steps and the implications of the proposed equations are not fully resolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring mathematical modeling of spirals, particularly in relation to conical shapes, as well as those studying parametric equations in geometry.

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I am looking for the formula to describe a spiral formed around a conical shape. If any particular details are needed, please make them variables and define them.

Thanks to all for the help!
 
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Hi eli_lied! :smile:

Do you mean a shortest-possible-distance spiral, as if a string was pulled tight around the cone?

If so, then remember a cone's "own" geometry (as opposed to embedded geometry) is flat Euclidean …

so just cut the cone along a generator, unfold it, draw a straight line on it, and then join it up again. :wink:
 
Thanks for the reply Tiny Tim :)

What I'm specifically looking for is the equation for a "spring-like" spiral that is, for lack of a better term, 0 at one end and infinity at the other. As though a spring were wrapped around a conical formation with a varying height that increases over time.
 
The simplest method would be to use a parametric equation

r(t)=(x(t), y(t), z(t)): x(t)=t \sin t, y(t)=t \cos t, z(t)=t

or something like that.
 

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