Frustrated about a minus in the result (D = RT question)

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The problem involves two hikers traveling towards each other from a distance of 25 kilometers apart, with one hiker starting earlier and traveling at a faster rate. The goal is to determine the rate of each hiker based on their meeting time.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, questioning the implications of a negative result in their calculations. Some suggest setting up an equation based on the total distance traveled by both hikers, while others reflect on their methods and the reasoning behind their results.

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There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the negative result, and multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being considered.

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Participants mention the need to clarify the distances traveled by each hiker and the implications of their rates, indicating that assumptions about their speeds and travel times are under discussion.

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Homework Statement



1) From two spots, whose distance between them is 25 kilometers, two hikers went towards each other: Hiker A and Hiker B
Hiker A went out at 7:00 AM
Hiker B went out at 7:30 AM

The distance of Hiker A was greater in 1 kilometer per hour than the speed of hiker B (the rates of the hikers are constant). The hikers met at 9:30 AM.

A) Find the rate of each of the hikers.

Homework Equations



D = RT

The Attempt at a Solution



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I'm pretty sure x is 5, but I'm not sure why I'm getting the result in a minus. Should I worry about that?
 
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Femme_physics said:
1) From two spots, whose distance between them is 25 kilometers, two hikers went towards each other: Hiker A and Hiker B
Hiker A went out at 7:00 AM
Hiker B went out at 7:30 AM

The distance of Hiker A was greater in 1 kilometer per hour than the speed of hiker B (the rates of the hikers are constant). The hikers met at 9:30 AM.

A) Find the rate of each of the hikers.I'm pretty sure x is 5, but I'm not sure why I'm getting the result in a minus. Should I worry about that?

Yes, you should worry about the minus sign.
It would imply that the bikers have to go backward and away from each other.
And that would be rather odd since they're supposed to meet. :)

Your table is fine! :smile:

Then what you did is say that the distances the bikers traveled are the same.
But this is not the case.

The problem says that the total distance of both bikers is 25 kilometers.
Can you set up an equation for that?
 
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I wrote what you said down on paper and I will reply to you tomorrow evening (i.e. roughly 20 hours from now) after doing some pondering. Thank you ILS!
 
I may have approached this differently...

DA + DB = 25

Where D is just the distance traveled per person and equal to rate*time. I got a positive solution using this method - something for you to take a look at if you'd like.
 
Thank you, Omega Prime! I was ready to write a loooooooong explanation about all the things I tried at work until I read your reply :D Appreciate it! And I appreciate the exercise to my mind and making me think logically about D = RT problems, ILS!
 
Femme_physics said:
Thank you, Omega Prime! I was ready to write a loooooooong explanation about all the things I tried at work until I read your reply :D Appreciate it! And I appreciate the exercise to my mind and making me think logically about D = RT problems, ILS!

Hey :)

Yes, that was the equation I had in mind.
And I was kind of looking forward to a loooooooong thread about it. :smile:

So did you finish it?
 
Yes, I equated them both to 25

2.5(x+1) +2x = 25
turns out x =5

:)
 
Femme_physics said:
Yes, I equated them both to 25

2.5(x+1) +2x = 25
turns out x =5

:)

Yep! :smile:

I guess this is not going to be a looooooooong thread after all. :cry:

(Note that it is by coincidence that you got -5 earlier! :wink:)
 
gotcha ;) oh we'll have it long some other time, for sure :D I like 'em long!
 
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Femme_physics said:
gotcha ;) oh we'll have it long some other time, for sure :D I like 'em long!

That would bring us to the next stage in the mathgasm cycle: must... learn... more! :)
 
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Femme_physics said:
Yes, I equated them both to 25

2.5(x+1) +2x = 25
turns out x =5

:)

Swish! :wink:
 
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I like Serena said:
That would bring us to the next stage in the mathgasm cycle: must... learn... more! :)

Yes indeed ;)


Omega_Prime said:
Swish! :wink:

Yessss indeed!
 

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