Function that equals 1 at x=0, but 0 everywhere else?

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The discussion centers around the search for a function that equals 1 at x=0 and equals 0 for all other values of x, specifically without using a piecewise definition. Participants explore various mathematical approaches, including limits and alternative function forms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests exploring limits and derivatives, proposing the expression 1-x/x, which is indeterminate at x=0.
  • Another participant proposes the limit of the function f(x) = e^{-a x^{2}} as a approaches infinity as a potential solution.
  • There is a discussion about the choice of the base e in the exponential function, with some participants noting that any non-zero real constant could work.
  • Some participants challenge the requirement of avoiding piecewise functions, arguing that piecewise is merely a notation and does not define a different kind of function.
  • One participant introduces the function f(x) = 0^x as a candidate, but another questions its definition for negative real numbers.
  • A later reply corrects the previous function to f(x) = 0^(x^2) but notes the indeterminate nature of 0^0.
  • There is a consensus among some participants that 0^0 is often treated as indeterminate, yet one participant suggests it is commonly accepted as 1 in certain contexts.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of avoiding piecewise functions and the interpretation of 0^0. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to define the desired function without piecewise notation.

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Limitations include the ambiguity surrounding the definition of 0^0 and the varying interpretations of piecewise functions. The discussion reflects differing mathematical conventions and the challenges of defining functions at specific points.

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Is there a function that equals 1 at x=0 and equals 0 when x isn't 0 without using a piecewise function? I've been experimenting with limits and derivatives but haven't made much progress.

The closest thing I was able to think of is 1-x/x, which is indeterminate at x=0, and 0 everywhere else.

Thanks!
 
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How about the limit as a approaches \infty of f(x) = e^{-a x^{2}}?
 
That'll do it :P
It seems like any real constant greater than 1 works in place of e. Is there a reason why you chose e?
 
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Kepler_ said:
That'll do it :P
It seems like any non-zero real constant works in place of e. Is there a reason why you chose e?

Out of infinitely many possible bases to choose from, ##e## is the only one that makes sense most of the time. In this case it doesn't matter, but why would you choose something else? If you want, you could rewrite this as
##
\lim_{a\rightarrow\infty}\left(\frac{1}{e^a}\right)^{x^2}
##in which case it is the same as
##
\lim_{b\rightarrow0}\left( b\right)^{x^2}
##
What matters is the ##x^2## exponent and the continuous, decreasing function as a base. Most mathematicians are used to ##e## being part of that base.

Also, this is sometimes thought of as a limit of normal distributions. These are defined using ##e##.
 
without using a piecewise function?

Is there a reason for this requirement? "Piecewise" is just a notation for describing a function; it isn't actually a "kind" of function. Even your description of your function is piecewise: 1 at zero, and 0 everywhere else.
 
Two functions are equal if they take the same value at every point. So, regardless of whether you describe a function piecewise or as the limit of a sequence of functions, it's the same function in the end.
 
I think this demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of functions. Functions are a rule associating two sets. That's it. Really, "piecewise function" doesn't really make sense. It's just a way of writing things.
 
johnqwertyful said:
I think this demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of functions. Functions are a rule associating two sets. That's it. Really, "piecewise function" doesn't really make sense. It's just a way of writing things.

But sometimes piecewise makes calculus hard. I think this is a good point to make though.
 
DrewD said:
But sometimes piecewise makes calculus hard. I think this is a good point to make though.

But "Piecewise" is only a way of describing a function. There is no such thing as a "piecewise function". f(x)=x if x>0, -x if x≤0. Or f(x)=|x|. Both are the same function. One is written "piecewise" the other isn't.
 
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johnqwertyful said:
But "Piecewise" is only a way of describing a function. There is no such thing as a "piecewise function". f(x)=x if x>0, -x if x≤0. Or f(x)=|x|. Both are the same function. One is written "piecewise" the other isn't.

Agreed.
 
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Here's another function that would satisfy the requirement but no limits involved:

f(x) = 0^x
 
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paisiello2 said:
Here's another function that would satisfy the requirement but no limits involved:

f(x) = 0^x

How would that be defined for negative real numbers?
 
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Ooops, you're right, I forgot to modify it:

f(x) = 0^(x^2)
 
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Everytime I have encountered it, ##0^0## has been considered an indeterminate form and not 1.
 
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DrewD said:
Everytime I have encountered it, ##0^0## has been considered an indeterminate form and not 1.

I agree, but let's not open that can of worms here. Paisiello2 clearly meant ##0^0=1##, so let's keep it at that, even if it's nonstandard.

mod note: not a ##0^0## argument please. All posts on this will be deleted.[/color]
 
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