Fusing Neutrons: Can It Lead to Cold Fusion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the possibility of fusing two neutrons to form helium and its implications for cold fusion. Participants explore theoretical aspects of neutron fusion, potential catalysts for fusion efficiency, and related speculative ideas about gravity and particle interactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether two neutrons can fuse to form helium and suggests that this could lead to cold fusion.
  • Another participant proposes that fusion might be more efficient if a catalyst were discovered.
  • A different participant asserts that fusing two neutrons to form helium is not possible, noting that helium already contains two neutrons and lacks the necessary protons.
  • One participant speculates that two neutrons could react to produce a deuteron, an electron, and an anti-neutrino, albeit with a very small energy release, referencing a paper that suggests neutron fusion is unlikely to be observed in the near future.
  • Several participants shift the topic to a speculative idea about removing electrons from atoms to produce anti-gravity, which is met with skepticism and dismissal by others.

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Participants express disagreement on the feasibility of neutron fusion and its implications for cold fusion. There is no consensus on the validity of the speculative ideas presented regarding gravity and particle interactions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to theoretical concepts and speculative ideas without resolving the underlying scientific uncertainties, particularly regarding neutron fusion and its practical implications.

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is it possible to get two neutrons to fuse togther to form an element?
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Is it possible to get two neutrons to fuse together to form helium? If so, would it not make cold fusion possible?
 
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also wouldn't fusion be much more efficient if they found a catalyst?
 
j2mhall said:
Is it possible to get two neutrons to fuse together to form helium?
No. Helium already has two neutrons. You're short two protons.
 
I have no idea of the cross section, but it seems 2 neutrons could react to produce a deuteron, electron, and anti-neutrino with a very small release of energy.

[edit: found a paper on this: https://arxiv.org/abs/nucl-th/0507048 , published in Physics Letters B

This practical gist of this paper is that neutron fusion is unlikely to observed at all, in the near future. The computed cross section for the reaction is:

σ = (38.6 ± 1.5) × 10−40 [cm2]

]
 
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changing the subject. If photons cause electrons to be removed from an atom and grativitons do the same then wouldn't a way to produce anti gravity be to remove all the electrons from an atom so that gravitons don't get absorbed?
 
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You seem to be hijacking your own thread. But your question does not even make sense, much less have an answer.
 
j2mhall said:
changing the subject. If photons cause electrons to be removed from an atom and grativitons do the same then wouldn't a way to produce anti gravity be to remove all the electrons from an atom so that gravitons don't get absorbed?
And with that bit of wild speculation, this thread is now closed. Thank you everybody for trying to help the OP understand the issues with his question in his thread start.
 

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