Fusion of Neutrons and Hydrogen Nucleus: Mechanism and Possibility Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility and mechanisms of fusing neutrons with a hydrogen nucleus, exploring theoretical implications, practical applications, and the challenges associated with such processes in nuclear reactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that fusing neutrons to a hydrogen nucleus could be a viable alternative to fusing charged protons, questioning the mechanisms that prevent this from occurring.
  • Others argue that while deuterons (proton-neutron pairs) are observed, there is no evidence for neutron-neutron pairs, suggesting that nature does not favor neutron fusion.
  • One participant mentions that neutron capture by hydrogen does occur, releasing energy in the form of gamma radiation, but questions the availability of free neutrons for such reactions.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the implications of the H + n -> D reaction in nuclear reactors, questioning why it is not more desirable given its energy release.
  • It is noted that in light water reactors, the H + n -> D reaction occurs at a low rate, and the production of tritium is undesirable due to its radioactivity.
  • One participant explains that the neutron balance in natural uranium reactors is critical, and that the H + n -> D reaction could disrupt this balance by causing neutron losses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and desirability of neutron fusion with hydrogen, with no consensus reached on the overall implications for nuclear reactor design or the fundamental nature of neutron interactions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the mechanisms of neutron fusion and the practical challenges associated with neutron availability and reactor design, without resolving these complexities.

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It never occurred to me until now why instead of using two charged protons to fuse together, rather fuse neutrons to a hydrogen nucleus.

Yes, it seems like cheating the system and therefore that's why I've not heard about this before, but what is the exact mechanism that prevents this from occurring? Neutrons share the strong nuclear force just as much as the protons, and considering there's at least one proton, shouldn't it be possible to fuse 1-2 neutrons to it?
 
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On the other hand, while we observe a deuteron (pn), we do not observe a (pp) particle, which we attribute to the very strong Coulomb repulsive force, but we also do not observe (nn), which would not be subject to the Coulomb force. Nature does not seem to favor n-fusion - at least not in our part of the universe.
 
Denton said:
It never occurred to me until now why instead of using two charged protons to fuse together, rather fuse neutrons to a hydrogen nucleus.

This is perfectly possible, and is actually a pain in most applications. Only, one doesn't call it "neutron-hydrogen fusion" but rather: neutron capture by hydrogen. It does liberate some energy (in the form of gamma radiation), of the order of 2.2 MeV if I remember well. The question is: where do you get the free neutrons from ?

The H + n -> D reaction has a non-neglegible probability, and is actually the reason why one cannot have nuclear power reactors with light water and natural uranium.
The reaction D + n -> T is much less probable (but does happen!) and is the reason why heavy water reactors CAN(DU) work with natural uranium.

This makes me think that nobody has got it ever in his (sick) mind to try to make a tritium-water reactor...
 
I don't understand why you wouldn't want the H + n -> D reaction in nuclear reactors.. more energy is not better?
 
In a fission reactor (LWR), the H + n -> D reaction does occur, and so does the D + n -> T reaction, but at a low rate. The problem with tritium is the radioactivity which one would like to minimize.

The H + n reaction is not a primary reaction in an LWR. It only produces ~2 MeV as opposed to ~200 MeV per fission of U-235 or Pu-239 which are desirable reactions in an LWR.
 
Denton said:
I don't understand why you wouldn't want the H + n -> D reaction in nuclear reactors.. more energy is not better?

It happens of course, a little bit. The reason I stated that was that for natural uranium, the neutron balance is extremely tight. You only have about exactly the right number of neutrons to keep the chain reaction going (meaning, that 1 neutron produced in a fission will on average give rise to 1 other fission), and to achieve that, you have to slow down the neutrons which are produced in fission at high energy to low thermal energies WITHOUT LOOSING THEM. Water can slow them down, but the reaction H + n -> D makes that one also looses some, and just too many are lost to be able to sustain a chain reaction.
 

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