G Magnitude to V magnitude stars in a CCD

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The discussion centers on the conversion of instrumental magnitudes obtained from CCD images using a g filter to real V magnitudes. Participants explore the necessity of additional measurements with an r filter for accurate conversion and the implications of filter differences on the conversion process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for converting g magnitudes to V magnitudes, which requires measurements from both g and r filters.
  • Another participant argues that without an r filter measurement, precise conversion to V magnitudes is not possible, emphasizing the dependence on the color of the object.
  • A question is raised regarding the relevance of the original poster's background in photometry to the conversion process.
  • Some participants suggest that the conversion's accuracy is contingent on the color of the stars being observed.

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Participants generally agree that converting g magnitudes to V magnitudes requires additional data from an r filter, but there is no consensus on the implications of the original poster's background in photometry.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of using a single filter for magnitude conversion and the necessity of understanding the color dependence of the stars involved.

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Astronomers and astrophysics students interested in photometry and CCD imaging techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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I have astronomical images taken using a CCD camera and telescope using a g filter. In the images I have stars with what is called instrumental magnitudes (from the photon count in each pixel). My question is if there is a way to change this g instrumental magnitude to a real V magnitude.

I have found this:
V = g - 0.03 - 0.42*(g-r)

from
Windhorst, R. W., et al. 1991, ApJ, 380, 362
and http://www.astro.umd.edu/~ssm/ASTR620/mags.html

This is telling me that I needed to have used an r filter on the same images. Is there another way to find the V magnitudes of the stars by only having images taken with a g filter?


Thank you
 
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Not, with any precision. It would help if you told us what your background in photometry is?
 
does it matter what the background is if all images were taken with a g filter? I don't understand the question.
 
When I say "your background in photometry" I'm talking about your personal prior knowledge about the topics covered in the scientific field of photometry.
 
Since the two filters have different wavelength bands, the conversion will depend on the color of the object. That is why you need two different measurements with two different filters to do a conversion. You might find this paper useful. Figure 1 shows the comparison of the filter bands.
 
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