Gambling Math: Probability of Bankruptcy Over N Bets

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probability of bankruptcy over a series of bets in a gambling scenario, specifically using a starting bankroll of $1000 and a betting limit of $500 with a win probability of 0.5. The calculations show that after 2 bets, the probability of going bankrupt is 25%, and after 4 bets, the total probability of bankruptcy increases to 37.5%. The participants seek a generalized formula for determining the probability of bankruptcy for any number of bets, N, while considering the rules of stopping when bankrupt and the implications of accumulating debts.

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Hi,

Let's say I have $1000 in a bookmaker, and this bookmaker would only allow bets of $500 at a time, each betting having a probability of 0.5 to win (this means odds of 1:1 or 2.0, so if you win you win 500, if you lose you lose 500 staked). How do I calculate the probability of going bankrupt over N bets, i.e. P(N)?

I know when number of bets is 2, the outcomes are:

WW (+500+500. leaving 2000 balance) 25%
LW,WL =>balance of 1000 still, 50%
LL=> balance of 0, bankrupt, 25%

then for 3 bets, the outcomes are(remembering we would of stopped playing if LL had happened and bankrupt us after 2 bets)

WWW(2500)
LWW(1500), WWL(1500),WLW(1500)
LWL(500),WLL(500)

so no chance of going bust here except if we had already done it after 2 bets, so still 25%.

After 4 bets we could have (excluding the bets we went bust after 2 times)


L=0::WWWW(3000)(6.25%)
L=1::WLWW(2000),WWLW(2000),LWWW(2000),WWWL(2000)(prob is 25%) (4!/3!1!=4 combos with L equals 1, and therefore balance of 2k)
L=2::LWLW(1000),WLLW(1000),WLWL(1000),WWLL(1000),LWWL(1000)(prob is 31.25%) (4!/2!2!=6 combos with L=2, but one is LLWW, which is bust after two so excluded)
L=3::LWLL(0),WLLL(0) (prob: 2*(0.5^4)=12.5%...4!/3!=4 with L=3 , but two are LLLW,LLWL,which are excluded as they bust after two)
(the other 25% is for times we went bust on first two, i.e LL...)


Therefore the TOTAL prob of going bust after 4 moves is P(4)=P(2)+12.5%=37.5%


How do you generalise this to get the probability of busting for any number of bets N?
 
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Is the game allowed to finish, even if you're accumulating debts?
 
well you would only stop betting when you went bankrupt, there's no way to build debt, if you keep winning you're making profit on the original 1k. If it makes the problem simpler though I'd still be interested in seeing the answer, when you stop playing and withdraw when you'd won say 10k(not sure if that would actually make it simpler though, since still infinite paths)

This problem seems like it should be simple, but I can't seem to get the answer for the life of me, haha, feel like it should converge to 100% as N->infinity...
 
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