Game show there are 10 contestants of which 6 are female.

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The problem involves a game show scenario with 10 contestants, 6 of whom are female. The task is to find the probability that the next two contestants eliminated are female, given that the first eliminated contestant is male. This falls under the subject area of probability and combinatorics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the term "given" in the context of conditional probability, questioning how it affects the calculation of probabilities. There are attempts to apply probability formulas and clarify the reasoning behind the elimination sequence.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and the correct application of probability concepts. Some have provided insights into why certain factors should be excluded from calculations, while others are seeking clarification on the definitions of events A and B in relation to the problem.

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There is a focus on understanding how the elimination of contestants affects the remaining probabilities, with some participants noting the decrease in total contestants and how that impacts calculations.

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Homework Statement


At the start of a gameshow there are 10 contestants of which 6 are female. In each round of
the game, one contestant is eliminated. All of the contestants have the same chance of
progressing to the next round each time.

Given that the first contestant to be eliminated is male, find the probability that the next
two contestants to be eliminated are both female.


Homework Equations


p(next to be female|male)=(next to be female n male)/(male)

The Attempt at a Solution


I did (4/10)*(6/9)*(5/8)
But when I checked the answer, it was (6/9)*(5/8).
Why?
 
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This is probably just a language issue. The problem says "Given that the first contestant to be eliminated is male". "Given" means that you assume the male is eliminated before you start calculating probabilities. It's called a conditional probability.
 


Ya, that's what I did. But how come I didn't get the same answer?
 


Or is there something wrong with my equation?
 


AllenHe said:
Or is there something wrong with my equation?

"Given" means something has already taken place and you don't factor in that probability. There's nothing wrong with the equation, but "given" means skip the 4/10 factor.
 


Originally, there were 10 contestants and 6 were female. Given that the first to be eliminated was male, there are now 9 contestants and 6 are female. What is the probability that the one eliminated now will be female? If that happens then there will be 8 contestants, 5 of them female. What is the probability that the one eliminated now will be female?
 


But how can I use the equation :

P(A|B)=P(AnB)/P(B)

to get the answer?Or is it not possible, because the total number of people decreases?
 


AllenHe said:
But how can I use the equation :

P(A|B)=P(AnB)/P(B)

to get the answer?Or is it not possible, because the total number of people decreases?

Sometimes we use that equation in reverse. When we know P(B) and P(A|B) we can use the equation to get P(AnB). That is what is happening in this problem.

RGV
 


so what's the value of P(AnB)?
 
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AllenHe said:
so what's the value of P(AnB)?

Tell me what are A and B. You brought up the AnB, and I just responded to your question.

RGV
 
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(4/10)*(6/9)*(5/8)
But it's not correct.
 
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AllenHe said:
(4/10)*(6/9)*(5/8)
But it's not correct.

Of course not. As has already been explained clearly to you, there should be no 4/10 factor.

RGV
 
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AllenHe said:
so what's the value of P(AnB)?

the probability of two independent events A and B: P(AnB) is the probability of A times the probability of B. Thats two things, not three things. So, not (4/10)*(6/9)*(5/8). Just (6/9)*(5/8)
 

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