Gearbox/Motor Configuration Q&A - Get Answers Now!

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around gearbox and motor configurations, specifically focusing on a customer's request for a 1HP 3-phase 220V motor and its compatibility with a gearbox. Participants explore technical specifications, potential solutions, and the necessary information required for proper configuration.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on gearbox/motor configurations, specifically mentioning a 1HP 3-phase 220V motor and a gearbox with a C56 flange.
  • Another participant suggests that a typical 1HP, 3-phase, 220V motor operates at around 1750 RPM and discusses the implications of a 40:1 gear ratio on output RPM.
  • There is a mention of service factor as a safety factor related to torque ratings, with a suggestion to determine input torque from the motor.
  • One participant points out that the Emerson gearbox may not meet the 40:1 ratio requirement and suggests looking into custom units.
  • A suggestion is made to consult a sales representative for additional options and insights that may not have been considered.
  • Another participant shares a personal experience with Baldor motors, indicating issues with shaft sparking under shock loads, which introduces a critical perspective on that brand.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the Emerson line and other motor brands, leading to multiple perspectives on the best approach to the configuration. No consensus is reached regarding the optimal solution or brand preference.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of specific details such as input RPM and service factor, which remain unclear and may depend on further clarification from the customer.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for engineers, sales representatives, and distributors involved in motor and gearbox configurations, particularly those seeking practical insights and shared experiences in the field.

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I feel like a fool having to ask this question here but I'm trying to learn this without calling engineering everytime I have a PT question. Is anyone here familiar with gearbox/motor configuration? I was going to use Emerson's boxes since I'm a distributor for them. Anyone here familar with them or anyone elses for that matter?
 
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Hi Ronnin. I'm not very familiar with the Emerson line, though I've used similar equipment in the past. What's your question?
 
Here is what I'm trying to do. Customer is requesting a 1HP 3phase 220 Motor. Connecting to a GB with a C56 flange (Is that normal?). 40:1 Ratio, Right Hand output. I don't know how many input RPM (Is there a standard for that HP?) Service factor (I don't know what would be normal for that). Do I have enough info from the customer? I know this is a new design for him but unfortunately I'm not of much help. I really want to try to understand the right questions to ask because I want to be able to configure solutions without having to call the customer back after I had to call engineering.
 
A 1 hp, 3 phase, 220 volt motor is typically 1750 RPM, and he's saying it has a NEMA C-face connection and the frame size of the motor is 56. A C-face connection is where the motor bolts up to something on the face that has the shaft protruding as shown here:
http://www.bearingsdirect.com/emotor/images/rigid_cface.htm

The 40:1 ratio I'm assuming reduces the RPM from 1750 on the input to 1750/40 on the output.

Service factor is essentially a type of safety factor, but the gear box is rated in torque, not power, so you may need to determine the input torque, x (from the electric motor), and then explain that the torque capacity of the model you're offering is X which gives a X/x 'service factor' over the point at which he's operating.

Take a look at the Emerson page here:
http://www.emerson-ept.com/eptroot/public/prod/brghelc/TorqTaperPlusCFace.asp
and see if one of these models would work. It looks like they only go to 35:1 so this customer may want a custom unit.

I think he's given you enough info for you to offer some potential solutions. There may be more than one gear box that can meet those criteria, cost and other factors being the differentiators.
 
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Thanks for the info. I will pull some potentials from the book and try to pin the customer down. Thanks again for your input.
 
If I may...in situations like these, a good sales rep for a distributor can really be a godsend. You sound like you have the major required details. If you were to present that to a sales rep, they should be able to give you options and possibly give you things to think about that neither you or your customer thought about.

If it's worth your while to think about other options, I use Baldor motors and drives quite a bit. I havenever had problems with them. Just another place you can look. Good luck.
 
I've had some bad experiences with high horsepower Baldor motors. They had some shaft sparking issues under shock loads.
 

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