Generalized mathematical induction

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The discussion revolves around proving a formula related to the Fibonacci sequence using generalized mathematical induction. Participants explore the application of induction to demonstrate that the closed form of the Fibonacci numbers can be expressed in terms of the golden ratio.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how to start the proof and seeks guidance.
  • Another participant suggests verifying the base case and states the induction hypothesis, providing equations to demonstrate the recursive relationships in the Fibonacci sequence.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of showing the base case for $n=0$ and suggest that proving for $n=1$ is unnecessary.
  • There are corrections regarding the formulation of the induction hypothesis, with participants clarifying the correct expressions for $F_k$.
  • One participant derives the characteristic equation associated with the Fibonacci sequence and discusses the implications for the closed form of $F_n$.
  • Another participant proposes proving that two different expressions for $F_n$ are equivalent through induction, suggesting specific calculations for the induction step.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to prove the formula, with multiple suggestions and corrections being made throughout the discussion. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different aspects of the proof without agreeing on a single method.

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Some participants note the need to clarify the base cases and the recursive definitions, while others point out potential errors in the formulation of the induction hypothesis. There are also references to the necessity of proving certain properties related to the golden ratio.

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Recall that the fibonacci sequence is defined as

{ f0=0; f1 = 1 and
{fn = f n - 1 + fn -2 for n 2

Prove by generalized mathematical induction that

fn = 1/sqrt(5)[ϕn - (-ϕ)-n]

where ϕ = [1+sqrt(5)]/2

is the golden ratio.. (This is known as de Moivre's formula.)
So I'm completely lost as to how I should start this and I need someone to point me in the right direction. Thanks.
 
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First, you want to demonstrate that the base case $P_0$ is true:

$$F_0=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{0}-\phi^{-0} \right)=0$$

Is this true?

Next, state the induction hypothesis:

$$F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-(-\phi)^{-k} \right)$$

As your inductive step, the recursive definition of the sequence will be helpful. During this process you will want to demonstrate that:

$$\phi^{k}+\phi^{k-1}=\phi^{k+1}$$

and

$$(-\phi)^{-k}+(-\phi)^{-(k-1)}=(-\phi)^{-(k+1)}$$
 
Hi, and welcome to the forum. Please see the section on strong induction in Wikipedia and possibly other sections of that article.
 
MarkFL said:
First, you want to demonstrate that the base case $P_0$ is true:

$$F_0=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{0}-\phi^{-0} \right)=0$$

Is this true?

Next, state the induction hypothesis:

$$F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-\phi^{-k} \right)$$

As your inductive step, the recursive definition of the sequence will be helpful. During this process you will want to demonstrate that:

$$\phi^{k}+\phi^{k-1}=\phi^{k+1}$$

and

$$\phi^{-k}+\phi^{-(k-1)}=\phi^{-(k+1)}$$

So my base cases check to be true. I've attached my work here.

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And fn is true for n. But I'm not sure how to prove for n + 1.

fn+1= f(n+1)-1 + f(n+1)-2

=fn+f(n-1)
=1/sqrt(5)[ϕn-n] + 1/sqrt(5) [ϕ(n-1) ϕ-(n-1)

What do I do next? If I'm even going in the right direction.
 

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While it didn't hurt to show it is true for $n=1$, you really only need to show it is true for one case, and demonstration that it is true for $n=0$ is simpler.

Okay, next you want to state the induction hypothesis $P_k$:

$$F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-(-\phi)^{-k} \right)$$

Now, I suggest adding to this $P_{k-1}$

$$F_{k-1}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k-1}-(-\phi)^{-(k-1)} \right)$$

Aided by the recursion:

$$F_{k+1}=F_{k}+F_{k-1}$$

the left side immediately becomes what you need. And the right side also becomes what you need if you prove the two properties involving $\phi$ I listed in my first post are true.
 
MarkFL said:
$$F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-\phi^{-k} \right)$$
This should say
\[
F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-(-\phi)^{-k} \right)
\]
just as the original post says.

MarkFL said:
While it didn't hurt to show it is true for $n=1$, you really only need to show it is true for one case
Hmm...

MarkFL said:
Okay, next you want to state the induction hypothesis $P_k$:

$$F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-\phi^{-k} \right)$$

Now, I suggest adding to this $P_{k-1}$

$$F_{k-1}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k-1}-\phi^{-(k-1)} \right)$$
Let's set $k=1$. We have proved $P_0$, but what about $P_1$?
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
This should say
\[
F_k=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^{k}-(-\phi)^{-k} \right)
\]
just as the original post says.

Hmm...

Let's set $k=1$. We have proved $P_0$, but what about $P_1$?

I fixed my posts to correctly state the hypothesis. My mistake also that both given initial values need to be shown are true.
 
As as aside, we can derive the required result. If we write the recursion as the linear homogeneous difference equation:

$$F_{n}-F_{n-1}-F_{n-2}=0$$

We then find the associated characteristic equation is:

$$r^2-r-1=0$$

Application of the quadratic formula yields the characteristic roots:

$$r=\frac{-(-1)\pm\sqrt{(-1)^2-4(1)(-1)}}{2(1)}=\frac{1\pm\sqrt{5}}{2}$$

Now, if we define:

$$\phi=\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}$$

We then see that:

$$\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}\cdot\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{1+\sqrt{5}}= \frac{1-5}{2\left(1+\sqrt{5} \right)}=- \frac{2}{1+\sqrt{5}}=(-\phi)^{-1}$$

Hence the characteristic roots may be given as:

$$r=\phi,\,(-\phi)^{-1}$$

And thus, we know the closed form for $F_n$ is given by:

$$F_n=A\phi^n+B(-\phi)^{-n}$$

Now, using the initial values of the sequence, we may determine the values of the parameters $A$ and $B$:

$$F_0=A\phi^0+B(-\phi)^{-0}=A+B=0\implies B=-A$$

$$F_1=A\phi^1+B(-\phi)^{-1}=A\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}-A\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}=A\sqrt{5}=1\implies A=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}$$

Hence, we find the solution satisfying the difference equation and the initial values is:

$$F_n=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\phi^n-\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}(-\phi)^{-n}$$

Factoring gives us:

$$F_n=\frac{1}{\sqrt{5}}\left(\phi^n-(-\phi)^{-n} \right)$$
 
Dog said:
fn = 1/sqrt(5)[ϕn - (-ϕ)-n]

where ϕ = [1+sqrt(5)]/2
Prove that this is the same as $$F_n=\frac{\left(\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^n-\left(\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^n}{\sqrt{5}}$$.

On induction step calculate $$F_{n+1}=F_{n-1}+F_n$$ by using

$$\left(\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2=1+\frac{1+ \sqrt{5}}{2}$$

$$\left(\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2=1+\frac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}$$
 

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