Given these values, determine the mass of the Earth

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The discussion revolves around determining the mass of the Earth using the orbital characteristics of the moon. The problem involves gravitational forces and centripetal motion, specifically utilizing the distance of the moon from the Earth and its orbital period.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, considering equations such as Fg = Fc. There are questions about how to incorporate velocity and the implications of the moon's motion.

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Participants are exploring various approaches to relate gravitational and centripetal forces. Some have suggested starting with the equality of these forces, while others are questioning how to derive velocity from the given parameters. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships involved without a clear consensus on the next steps.

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Participants are working under the constraints of using provided values and relevant equations, while also grappling with the definitions and relationships between the forces involved in orbital motion.

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Homework Statement
The moon orbits the Earth at a distance of 3.84 x 10^8 m from the centre of Earth. The moon has a period of about 27.3 days. From these values, determine the mass of the Earth
Relevant Equations
F = G(Mm)/r^2
F = mv^2/r
Honestly at a loss. Don't know where to start, what formulas to use. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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osakabosaka said:
Homework Statement:: The moon orbits the Earth at a distance of 3.84 x 10^8 m from the centre of Earth. The moon has a period of about 27.3 days. From these values, determine the mass of the Earth
Relevant Equations:: F = G(Mm)/r^2
F = mv^2/r

Honestly at a loss. Don't know where to start, what formulas to use. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

What type of motion is the moon undergoing about the Earth? Does that help you to write down an ##F=ma## relation of some sort?

It might help to know that for two spherically symmetric masses, ##r## in Newton's law of gravitation is taken to be the distance between the centres.
 
Gravitational force?
So is starting out with something like Fg=Fc alright?
 
osakabosaka said:
Gravitational force?

##\vec{F_{g}}## is definitely the centripetal force.

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So is starting out with something like Fg=Fc alright?

Give it a shot and see what you get!
 
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Fc = Fg
(mv^2)/r = (Gm1m2)/r^2

not sure what to do with velocity or if this is a dead end
 
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Fc = Fg
(mv^2)/r = (Gm1m2)/r^2

not sure what to do with velocity or if this is a dead end

Well, the centripetal acceleration can be expressed in a few different ways. Most helpful in this context is ##a = r\omega^{2}##. That is, ##a = \frac{v^2}{r} = \frac{(r\omega)^{2}}{r} = r\omega^{2}##.
 
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Fc = Fg
(mv^2)/r = (Gm1m2)/r^2

not sure what to do with velocity or if this is a dead end
The question to ask yourself is: given the radius and period of circular motion, can you work out how fast the object is travelling?
 

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