God vs Big Brother: Is There a Difference?

[Iacchus32]

Originally posted by BoulderHead
Yes, but not everyone is a 'lifer' in our system.

In which case, unless they are totally incorrigible, they will be given a reprieve.


From the thread, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1072&perpage=15&pagenumber=1" ...

Originally posted by Iacchus32

Originally posted by FZ+
So it is possible to be evil in heaven?

Do you know anything about transistor theory. It is possible to get a transistor to oscillate at either polarity of the battery (or power source). And yet, it depends on this difference "in potential" in order for it to operate. Therefore it could operate within the parameters of the "apparent good" (positve range) or, within the parameters of the "apparent bad" (negative range).

Therefore evil has to exist in either sense in order to allow for the transistor to oscillate: i.e., the oscillation pertaining to "our lives."

As far as outright evil being permitted in heaven, typically no, although it is allowed at times for the evil to be taken up into heaven, in order to demonstrate the nature of their evil, so that they no longer desire to go to heaven (and create disturbances). Also at times spirits do "slip up," and are let down into their "own hells" so to speak, until they learn from what they did wrong.

 

[BoulderHead]

Originally posted by Iacchus32
In which case, unless they are totally incorrigible, they will be given a reprieve.

This would all be good and fine if either you were the great judge in the sky, or if the great judge in the sky held these views. In either case I can see no reason why it might be worthwhile for me to believe it true in this life. Surely, if I find myself in another state of existence after my physical body dies then, assuming I will have recollection of this existence, I will be a much wiser being. Such knowledge will make it possible for me to consider many things that I find improbable in this life-cycle.

 

[Iacchus32]

Originally posted by BoulderHead
This would all be good and fine if either you were the great judge in the sky, or if the great judge in the sky held these views. In either case I can see no reason why it might be worthwhile for me to believe it true in this life. Surely, if I find myself in another state of existence after my physical body dies then, assuming I will have recollection of this existence, I will be a much wiser being. Such knowledge will make it possible for me to consider many things that I find improbable in this life-cycle.

These are cleary matters which are supposed to be taught by the church, which apparently it doesn't do a very good job of. While it's also a matter of one's intentions that determines whether this has any relevance to one's life or not.

 

[FZ+]

I think the most important thing is to learn to love yourself. And then what you do attract, is that which is most compatible with yourself. And even if you don't find somebody "compatible" in this life (as a mate?), so long as you are happy with yourself, chances are you will find that somebody in the next life.
If on the other hand you are lonely and miserable (which isn't to say things can't get better), then you will most likely find others like yourself to console you in your "self pity" -- i.e., and feel sorry for each other.

What if I don't want "somebody" in my next life? I want the people I have now to be with me, no matter how their desires are different? What if the difference in their desires, their individuality, is what makes them special to me? What if I want reconcilliation with the people I have wronged, even if they do not accept me? What if I love society as it is, and community is the fulfillment of desire? A personal heaven is a lonely place... and one that can only become a prison.

 

[Iacchus32]

Ruling Love

Originally posted by FZ+
What if I don't want "somebody" in my next life? I want the people I have now to be with me, no matter how their desires are different? What if the difference in their desires, their individuality, is what makes them special to me? What if I want reconcilliation with the people I have wronged, even if they do not accept me? What if I love society as it is, and community is the fulfillment of desire? A personal heaven is a lonely place... and one that can only become a prison.

Basically, as I understand it, you will find that which is most suitable to you, and it will seem as if it had always been that way, including the people around you. And whether or not these are people you actually know now (it all depends on compatibility), it will seem as though you always have. Whereas the same would hold true for those who are closest to you now.


From the thread, https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1072" ...

"Man after death is his own love or his own will.

This has been proved to me by manifold experience. The entire heaven is divided into societies according to differences of good of love; and every spirit who is taken up into heaven and becomes an angel is taken to the society where his love is; and when he arives there he is, as it were, at home, and in the house where he was born; this the angel perceives, and is affiliated with those there that are like himself. When he goes away to another place he feels constantly a kind of resistance, and a longing to return to his like, thus to his ruling love. Thus are affiliations brought about in heaven; and in a like manner in hell, where all are affiliated in accordance with loves that are the opposite of heavenly loves." ~ http://www.swedenborg.com/" , Heaven and Hell

 

[FZ+]

In that case, heaven is an illusion, is it not? Do do not get what you want, but rather you are changed to fit a little niche. Then how is heaven not a prison - a prison of the mind?

 

[Iacchus32]

Originally posted by FZ+
In that case, heaven is an illusion, is it not? Do do not get what you want, but rather you are changed to fit a little niche. Then how is heaven not a prison - a prison of the mind?

All I can tell you is that if you find happiness in this life, you will find it in the next ... It's as easy as that.

 

[FZ+]

So God will keep me topped up on prozac? Sounds like fun...