Goodbye US Sardine Canneries: 135 Yrs of History Ends

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The discussion centers around the closure of the last sardine cannery in the United States, reflecting on the historical significance of sardine canning in Maine and the factors contributing to the decline of the industry. Participants explore themes of overfishing, foreign competition, and the ecological impact on herring stocks, with a mix of personal anecdotes and broader industry observations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express nostalgia for the sardine canning industry and highlight its cultural significance in Maine.
  • Concerns are raised about overfishing and its impact on herring stocks, with some arguing that foreign trawlers may be contributing significantly to the decline.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of sardines and the types of fish typically used in canning, with some clarifying that sardines are not a specific species but rather a variety of small fish.
  • Some participants speculate that the closure of the cannery could lead to a long-term fishing ban, potentially benefiting fish stocks, while others question the implications of such a closure on local fishermen.
  • Concerns are voiced about the potential for factory ships operating in international waters to exacerbate overfishing, particularly if fishermen can sell their quotas to these ships.
  • Participants discuss the regulatory challenges facing the Maine fishing industry, including the difficulty of monitoring catch limits and the impact of unregulated fishing practices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the causes of the decline of the sardine canning industry, with some attributing it to overfishing and foreign competition, while others emphasize regulatory failures and the role of unmonitored fishing practices. There is no consensus on the primary factors contributing to the situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of fishing regulations and the challenges of enforcement, particularly in relation to international waters and foreign fishing practices. The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about the sustainability of fish stocks and the effectiveness of current management strategies.

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The last sardine cannery in the US will shut down this week. I love sardines, I make an open face sandwich of sardines, topped with cheese and run under the broiler until the cheese is all melted and bubbly. I know a lot of people don't like sardines, but it's the end of an era here and rather sad.

It's as much a statement of what over fishing our coastal waters has done as what foreign competition is doing.

For the past 135 years, sardine canneries have been as much a part of Maine's small coastal villages as the thick Down East fog. It's been estimated that more than 400 canneries have come and gone along the state's long, jagged coast.

The lone survivor, the Stinson Seafood plant here in this eastern Maine shoreside town, shuts down this week after a century in operation. It is the last sardine cannery not just in Maine, but in the United States.

"It just doesn't seem possible this is the end," Anderson lamented last week while taking a break at the plant where she's worked for 54 years. She and nearly 130 co-workers will lose their jobs.

It seems that overfishing and competition from China and Taiwan have killed the market here in the US.

Still, it came as a surprise to employees when Bumble Bee Foods LLC — which has owned the facility since 2004 — announced in February that the plant would close because of steep cuts in the amount of herring fishermen are allowed to catch in the Northeast. The New England Fishery Management Council set this year's herring quota at 91,000 metric tons — down from 180,000 tons in 2004 — because of the uncertain scientific outlook of the region's herring population.

Shortages have forced San Diego-based Bumble Bee to truck in much of the herring needed at the Maine plant from its other cannery in Blacks Harbour, New Brunswick, and from herring suppliers as far away as New Jersey. Even without the quota cuts, the plant was under pressure from shrinking consumer demand, increased foreign competition — primarily from China and Thailand — and thin margins and low prices on the retail market.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100414/ap_on_bi_ge/us_so_long_sardines
 
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There used to be sardine canneries all up and down the Maine coast, and they have all closed. Herring stocks have been depleted, so catch limits are down, but why? It isn't over-fishing for the dying sardine-packing industry that is responsible - alone, the canneries (now single cannery, and that one is closed) couldn't have consumed enough herring to destroy the herring population, and Maine's fishermen can't land enough herring to hurt the stock. I've got to think that foreign trawlers that don't follow our fishing regulations and catch-limits are playing a big role in the decline.
 
turbo-1 said:
There used to be sardine canneries all up and down the Maine coast, and they have all closed. Herring stocks have been depleted, so catch limits are down, but why? It isn't over-fishing for the dying sardine-packing industry that is responsible - alone, the canneries (now single cannery, and that one is closed) couldn't have consumed enough herring to destroy the herring population, and Maine's fishermen can't land enough herring to hurt the stock. I've got to think that foreign trawlers that don't follow our fishing regulations and catch-limits are playing a big role in the decline.
I believe you're right, I remember past reports of poaching in our waters.
 
Wait a minute...they put herring into sardine cans :confused:?
 
lisab said:
Wait a minute...they put herring into sardine cans :confused:?
Sardines aren't a species of fish. They are small packed fish of many varieties. Here in Maine, they were typically small herring.

Sardines were cheap when I was a kid, and frequently went on sale so my father would stock up on them. I'd open a can of them, stack them on a piece of bread spread with mustard, top that with sharp cheddar, then another slice of bread with either butter or mustard. Mmmm.
 
I saw a show dealing with sardines/herring/seals on the west coast, and one part of it was about the fishermen and the season/allotment for sardines/ herrings. Those fishermen are so efficient at finding them that the season last only about an hour if I remember right.
 
From time to time, my wife cooks a fish whose Japanese name is iwashi. In the dictionary, they are defined as sardines, but I don't know what they really are. They are much larger than the canned sardines I was used to as a child. My mother would put some mayo on a piece of bread and lay about 3 of those tuna wannabees on it for me to scarf down. Also, the ones my wife cooks are fresh, not packed in oil.
 
Could be good news long term - if it's effectively a fishing ban.
The cod stocks in the North sea need a ban for 20years if they are ever going to recover (like the Grand Banks), but because of politics the quota is set at a compromise which means the species is still declining and the industry is screwed.

Unless of course the cannery closing mean the fishermen can all just sell their quotas to a single factory ship operator. Presumably sardines would be pretty easy to process at sea?
 
mgb_phys said:
Could be good news long term - if it's effectively a fishing ban.
The cod stocks in the North sea need a ban for 20years if they are ever going to recover (like the Grand Banks), but because of politics the quota is set at a compromise which means the species is still declining and the industry is screwed.
It might have the same effect as a ban, but calling a reaction to market conditions by business a "ban" is messed up.
 
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mgb_phys said:
Unless of course the cannery closing mean the fishermen can all just sell their quotas to a single factory ship operator. Presumably sardines would be pretty easy to process at sea?
If the factory ship is in international waters, then off-loading catches to them would not be under the oversight of marine-resource people, and over-fishing can continue unabated. NO quotas to be observed, that way.

Herring are popular bait-fish, and can be ground up into nutritious fish-meal to feed penned salmon, so there is still a potential for over-fishing, especially since herring is still very popular in Europe and foreign trawlers can easily over-harvest them during the warmer months when the herring are farther out from shore.
 
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turbo-1 said:
If the factory ship is in international waters, then off-loading catches to them would not be under the oversight of marine-resource people, and over-fishing can continue unabated. NO quotas to be observed, that way.
I assumed the fish were caught in-shore in regulated waters so the catch would have a quota.
But if the existing fishermen can just sell their quota then you could have a single ship wipe out the stocks even more efficently.
 
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The only thing I like about Sardines was opening the can with the nifty little key. I could never eat them.
 
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mgb_phys said:
I assumed the fish were caught in-shore in regulated waters so the catch would have a quota.
There aren't enough Marine Patrol vessels to monitor all the fishing boats out there, so the task of determining who has met their quota falls to officials on shore when the boats unload. If small trawlers head out into international waters to off-load to a factory ship, there is no oversight regarding catch-limits. Add this to large foreign trawlers supplying Japan and Europe, and you have a recipe for collapse of herring stocks.
 
  • #14
The Maine fishing industry has a LOT of challenges. In Maine, we have a tight slot limit in carapace length in which trapped lobsters can be kept, landed, and sold. Just a few miles to the south of the southern lobster grounds is New Hampshire, with NO such limits. Huge breeders can be sold on the docks of Portsmouth, and resold in NH's fish stores. Want a 25# lobster, want cut-rate booze, want easy access to fireworks? NH has it all, strategically located off a little stretch of I95 that you have to pay hefty tolls to drive on. They have such a short little piece of coast-line that there is no motivation for them to protect fisheries in Maine or Massachusetts. It's probably time for a federal initiative.
 
  • #15
At least the decapodians haven't come and eaten all the anchovies...
 
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hypatia said:
The only thing I like about Sardines was opening the can with the nifty little key. I could never eat them.
I've bought sardine (and anchovies) in the grocery in the last few years, but none of them have the little key. Typically the elliptical can used to be wrapped in paper and upon unwrapping the small package, there was the little key waiting on top. It took a special skill to roll up the lid properly. I miss the http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EgWG8AEk_YM/SpKAowSr5SI/AAAAAAAAE78/25Z9GFu2dvQ/s400/sardine-can.jpg". :cry:
 
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Ouabache said:
I've bought sardine (and anchovies) in the grocery in the last few years, but none of them have the little key. Typically the elliptical can used to be wrapped in paper and upon unwrapping the small package, there was the little key waiting on top. It took a special skill to roll up the lid properly. I miss the http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EgWG8AEk_YM/SpKAowSr5SI/AAAAAAAAE78/25Z9GFu2dvQ/s400/sardine-can.jpg". :cry:
I haven't seen a key for many years. The canneries use aluminum pop-top-like tabs with rip-off tops.

Years ago, there was a cannery here that packed herring that was a bit larger than the tiny sardine-sized fish, and their products would frequently go on special in the Associated Grocers markets throughout Maine. You could get the fish packed in oil, packed in a sweet mustard sauce, or packed in what they called a New Orleans sauce (spicy, tomato-based sauce). All were great. I forget the brand now (it has been almost 40 years), but I was sad to see them go.
 
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  • #18
I remember two types of keys. One was folding and made of two pieces of steel, I think I still have one in the drawer in the kitchen. That's for opening normal cans. The other was a thin rod cut in the middle, that was used to roll the lid (that's the type Ouabache mentioned). These were used for soldered cans, I don't remember seeing such a can in ages.
 
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Borek said:
I remember two types of keys. One was folding and made of two pieces of steel, I think I still have one in the drawer in the kitchen. That's for opening normal cans. The other was a thin rod cut in the middle, that was used to roll the lid (that's the type Ouabache mentioned). These were used for soldered cans, I don't remember seeing such a can in ages.
I remember when spam cans were opened with a key. It tore a thin strip off around the circumference of the can, just below the top.
 
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Evo said:
I remember when spam cans were opened with a key. It tore a thin strip off around the circumference of the can, just below the top.
Yep! Some canned hams opened the same way.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Yep! Some canned hams opened the same way.

and peanuts and coffee
 
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turbo-1 said:
Yep! Some canned hams opened the same way.

rewebster said:
and peanuts and coffee
Yep, then the strip would break off half way around, so you'd get your tin snips out.
 
  • #23
I think Polish canned ham (Krakus) is still packed this way.

http://www.schauls.com/store/item.asp?department_id=159&item_id=443

I think it is made mainly for US market, or at least that's what I have heard few years ago.
 
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Borek said:
I think Polish canned ham (Krakus) is still packed this way.

http://www.schauls.com/store/item.asp?department_id=159&item_id=443

I think it is made mainly for US market, or at least that's what I have heard few years ago.
I've seen those hams! I believe that I've eaten some before.
 
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  • #25
I just bought a can of sardines today for the first time in over 27 years. Science says there no such thing as synchronicity but here it is!
 
  • #26
Hmmm... has anyone seen the episode of Futurama where Fry buys the last can of Anchovies in existence? This... makes that a lot less funny.
 
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Frame Dragger said:
Hmmm... has anyone seen the episode of Futurama where Fry buys the last can of Anchovies in existence? This... makes that a lot less funny.

See my post for the reference.
 
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Matterwave said:
See my post for the reference.

Ah!, damn, I should have looked on the first page. Good one Matterwave!
 
  • #29
I bought a can of sardines from the company that is closing, I got the mustard ones, my favorite. Sad.
 
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Does that mean no smoked kipper snacks either? They're herring too. I'll be very sad if I can't get those anymore. I'll have to go clean off the store shelves this weekend if I'm not too late and stockpile some. I love putting them on crackers as a snack, or even a meal. :frown:
 

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