Graduate Admission: Advice for International Student in Expt HEP

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on advice for an international student applying to PhD programs in experimental high energy physics (HEP). Participants explore admission scores, university rankings, and the relevance of research experience in the application process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their GRE scores and asks about admission chances at universities ranked between 30 to 50.
  • Several participants seek clarification on the abbreviation "Expt HEP" and the basis for university rankings.
  • Another participant lists universities they are considering based on a 2008 US News report and asks for feedback on these choices.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of having a Physics GRE score below the stated minimum for certain universities, specifically Rice University.
  • Some participants suggest that minimum score requirements may not be strictly enforced and that other factors, such as research experience and recommendation letters, could influence admission decisions.
  • There is a suggestion that to assess the quality of research at the listed universities, one should read journal papers related to their work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the significance of GRE scores and the interpretation of minimum score requirements. There is no consensus on the best approach to selecting universities or the weight of different application components.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific GRE score thresholds and university rankings, but the discussion does not clarify the criteria for these rankings or the specific research strengths of the listed institutions.

Who May Find This Useful

International students considering PhD programs in experimental high energy physics, as well as those interested in the admissions process and factors influencing graduate school applications.

Amith2006
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I am an international student and I need some advice regarding applying to phd program in expt HEP. The following are my scores:
General GRE
Verbal-660
Quant-790
AWA-4

Subject GRE-820(75 percentile)
TOEFL-96
I also have one publication to my credit and good recos. Any chances of finding admission in universities ranking between 30 to 50? Other than the top 15 universities,what are the other good universities for Expt HEP?
 
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What subject test did you take?
What do you mean by Expt HEP?
What "ranking" are you basing the question on?
 
Probably "expt HEP" means "experimental high energy [particle] physics". (but nevertheless, it's not a good idea to use abbreviations like this, unless you define them first!)
 
-DB said:
What subject test did you take?
What do you mean by Expt HEP?
What "ranking" are you basing the question on?

I mean experimental HEP. I have short listed some universities based on the US news report of 2008.

Rutgers state university New Jersy
Rice University
UC, Irvine
University of Florida, Gainesville
University of Rochester, New York
Texas A & M University, college station
UC, Santa Cruz
Penn State University, University Park
University of Pittsburgh, PA
UC, Riverside

By subject test I mean Physics GRE. U don't apply for HEP with math or chem GRE I presume. How do these universities appear as far as experimental HEP is concerned buddy?
 
As an international student, I know my physics gre score is not that good. But is good enough for a university like Rutgers or Rice. Rice university has mentioned in their website that the minimum physics gre score is 832(72 percentile). Though I have the required percentile, but less than 832. So, will they deny even considering the application?
 
Amith2006 said:
...So, will they deny even considering the application?

You should ask a representative from the University. Only they will give you the correct answer.

CS
 
Amith2006 said:
As an international student, I know my physics gre score is not that good. But is good enough for a university like Rutgers or Rice. Rice university has mentioned in their website that the minimum physics gre score is 832(72 percentile). Though I have the required percentile, but less than 832. So, will they deny even considering the application?

In my experience, when a department sets a "minimum" score, they do so to limit the number of applicants, but generally believe that the actual cutoff will be higher.

That said, if the application comes to their department, they'll probably look at it. What could put you over the edge is research experience (if you have it). A readers score (of your personal statement and letters of recommendation (which should stress research experience, if you have it) is probably weighted into the final ranking of candidates and could slip you into the acceptance range.
 
physics girl phd said:
In my experience, when a department sets a "minimum" score, they do so to limit the number of applicants, but generally believe that the actual cutoff will be higher.

I agree that this is probably right in most cases. I've also seen (outside physics), however, when someone's boss sets the minimum, and the person or people actually making the decisions don't care at all about the score relative to other factors.
 
So, how about my choice of universities? Any idea about the quality of research going on in these universities? Any suggestion is welcome buddy!
 
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To know the quality of research, you should read journal papers, and try to have some sense of their work.
 

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