Gravitational force magnitude problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net gravitational forces acting on two masses, specifically a 20.0 kg mass and a 5.0 kg mass. Participants are exploring the application of Newton's law of universal gravitation and vector addition in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to calculate gravitational forces between the masses and consider the direction of these forces. There are questions about the assumptions regarding gravitational acceleration and the method of vector addition.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the principles of gravitational force and vector addition. There is an ongoing exploration of how to determine the net force and its direction, with various interpretations of the problem being discussed.

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There is a mention of ignoring other gravitational influences, such as Earth, and focusing solely on the gravitational interactions between the two masses. Participants are also grappling with the specifics of vector addition and the calculation of angles.

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What is the magnitude of the net gravitational force on the 20.0 kg mass?
What is the direction of the net gravitational force on the 20.0 kg mass?
What is the magnitude of the net gravitational force on the 5.0 kg mass?

I'm completely lost on this.
 
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Each pair of masses exerts equal and opposite gravitational forces on each other according to Newton's law of gravity. (Look it up if you have to.) Calculate all the forces acting on each mass and just add them up, remembering that forces are vectors.
 
so would the gravity be assumed to be 9.8 m/s?
 
mawalker said:
so would the gravity be assumed to be 9.8 m/s?

No. 9.8 m/s^2 is the acceleration due to Earth gravity near the Earth's surface. I assume in this problem you are to calculate the gravitational forces between these objects, ignoring any other gravitating bodies (such as the Earth). Pretend they are in outer space and use Newton's law of universal gravity.
 
i'm still not getting it. for the force on the 20 kg unit i have 6.67*10^-11*(20)*(10)/(.2)^2 + 6.67*10^-11*(20)*(5)/(.1)^2 giving me a net total force of 3.04 * 10^-4, which is incorrect
 
forces are vectors, not scalars

The force from the 10 kg mass points in +y direction while the force from the 5 kg mass points in the +x direction. Add them like vectors, not numbers.
 
i've never really understood vector addition all that much. do i just square both numbers and add them together, then take the square root?
 
That will work, since those vectors are perpendicular.
 
how do i go about finding out which direction the net gravitational force on the 20kg object is? i know it would be somewhere in between the two but i don't know how to figure out how many degrees it is.
 
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Given the y component and x component of a vector, the angle it makes with the x-axis can be found using:
\tan\theta = \mbox{y-component}/\mbox{x-component}
 
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What is the magnitude of the net gravitational force on the 5.0 kg mass?

I used Force in y= [G (10)(5) / r^2 ] sin theta =5.96 x 10 ^-8
r = 0.223606 sin theta = 0.2/ 0.223606 =
Force in x = [G (5)(20)/ (0.1)^2] = 6.67 x 10^-7

magnitude = sq root of (force in y) ^2 + (force in x) ^2 = 6.6966x 10^-7?


is an angle in cos or sin?
 

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