Gravitational force on a particle from line of mass

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The problem involves calculating the gravitational force exerted by a uniformly distributed mass along a line on a particle located above its center. The particle's position is defined in relation to the line's perpendicular bisector, and the task includes determining the force components both perpendicular and parallel to the line, as well as examining the behavior of the results as the distance becomes large.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the gravitational force components but notes an inconsistency in their result, suspecting it is too large by a factor of two. They express confusion regarding their integration process and seek clarification on how to approach the problem correctly.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the original poster's attempts, questioning the basis of their calculations and the integration method used. Some participants are also exploring the implications of the problem as the distance increases, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's transition to a four-year institution, suggesting they are revisiting foundational concepts. Additionally, there is a recurring emphasis on the length of the rod being 2L, which may influence the setup of the problem and the integration limits.

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Homework Statement


Mass M is distributed uniformly along a line of length 2L. A particle of mass m is at a point that is a distance a above the center of the line on it's perpendicular bisector. For the gravitational force that the line exerts on the particle. calculate the components perpendicular and parallel to the line. Does your result reduce to the correct expression as a becomes very large?[/B]

Homework Equations


F=\frac{GMm}{r^2}

\lambda = M/L

The Attempt at a Solution



So I've been trying to brush up on some first year stuff as I'm transferring to a four year next semester. I'm getting an answer that is too big by a factor of two, not sure why.

Solving for the perpendicular component of force. I have

\frac {aGmM}{L}\int_{-L}^{L} \frac{dx}{(a^2+x^2)^{3/2}}

this gives me \frac{2GmM}{a(L^2+a^2)^{1/2}} two times to big.

Where am I making the answer twice as big?[/B]
 
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How do you know it is twice as big as the correct answer?
How did you do the integration?

What should the expression turn into as a gets very large?
 
Crush1986 said:

Homework Statement


Mass M is distributed uniformly along a line of length 2L. A particle of mass m is at a point that is a distance a above the center of the line on it's perpendicular bisector. For the gravitational force that the line exerts on the particle. calculate the components perpendicular and parallel to the line. Does your result reduce to the correct expression as a becomes very large?[/B]

Homework Equations


F=\frac{GMm}{r^2}

\lambda = M/L

The rod is of 2L length.
 
<slap face> I better get some sleep... :(
 
ehild said:
The rod is of 2L length.
Haha, that makes sense. Thanks!
 
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Simon Bridge said:
<slap face> I better get some sleep... :(

Yeah, when I posted this I was pretty much a few hours after my bed time as well. Still not sure I would of caught this mistake though, haha. Thanks for your replies.
 
Usually the rod is length L and you do the integration from -L/2 to L/2 or from 0 to L depending how the coordinates were set up.
After a while i=t gets to be a reflex t just say L/M for density ... so naturally profs will throw that particular curve...
 

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