Gravity of Black Holes: What Escapes and What Doesn't?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of black holes, specifically focusing on the curvature of space around them, the concept of Hawking radiation, and the implications of faster-than-light travel in relation to black holes. Participants explore theoretical aspects and implications of these phenomena.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether black holes curve space sharply enough to prevent light from escaping while allowing faster-than-light objects to do so.
  • Another participant suggests that if a black hole bends space back into itself, it could create a closed sphere that nothing could enter.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of Hawking radiation as a relevant aspect of the discussion.
  • One participant posits that more massive black holes may bend spacetime less at their event horizons, which could challenge intuitive understandings of black hole behavior.
  • Another participant asserts that at the singularity, the curvature of space is infinite or close to infinite, emphasizing the extreme nature of black holes.
  • It is mentioned that while a particle moving faster than light could theoretically escape the event horizon, this contradicts the theory of relativity, which states that nothing can exceed the speed of light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of black hole curvature and the nature of Hawking radiation. There is no consensus on the specifics of how black holes interact with faster-than-light travel or the extent of their spacetime curvature.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of spacetime and the limitations of current theories, particularly regarding the behavior of particles in extreme gravitational fields.

Ghost of Progress
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
Recently someone told me that Black holes give off some sort of radiation and that this radiation, in escaping the black hole, must be traveling at faster than the speed of light.
The biggest thing that I'm unsure of is just how much a black hole bends space. Does it curve it just sharply enough so that light can't escape but,in theory, somthing going faster than light might be able to? Or does it curve space into itself so that if something was trying to move out from a black hole even at an infinite speed it could not do it.
then this brings up a second thought. If a black hole bends space back into itself wouldn't this make a closed sphere that nothing could enter.
And finaly - if it's true that there is some kind of radiation coming from black holes maybe instead of trying to figure out how it's going faster than light we could think that it's some particle that's unaffected by curves in 3D space.
 
Astronomy news on Phys.org
I just did some more reading and realized this was really a question about Hawking radiation.
Any answers on the question of just how much a black hole can curve space would still be appreciated - thanks.
 
Partial answer, and I'm shootinig from the hip.

I think it can fairly be said that the more massive the black hole, the less it bends spacetime at its event horizon. That may seem a little bit counter to your intuition.
 
Originally posted by Ghost of Progress
The biggest thing that I'm unsure of is just how much a black hole bends space. Does it curve it just sharply enough so that light can't escape but,in theory, somthing going faster than light might be able to? Or does it curve space into itself so that if something was trying to move out from a black hole even at an infinite speed it could not do it.
Well, a black hole bends space a lot. At the singularity the curvature of space is infinite or close to infinite, depending on which physicist you tend to agree more.

A black hole can roughly be defined as everything inside its event horizon. The event horizon is where light cannot escape anymore (hence the "black" hole). So, a particle moving faster than light should be able to escape the event horizon. However, I must remind you that the theory of relativity is based on the assumption that nothing can move faster than light.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
6K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K