Green's function of the Klein-Gordon operator

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The discussion revolves around the computation of the Green's function for the Klein-Gordon operator, particularly focusing on the properties of propagators and their analytic characteristics within quantum field theory. Participants explore the implications of various terms in the context of vacuum expectation values and time-ordered products.

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  • One participant questions how the term with (\partial^{2}+m^{2})\langle 0| [\phi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle vanishes and why only \langle 0 | [\pi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle is obtained from \partial_{t}\langle 0 | [\phi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle.
  • Another participant suggests that the vanishing term is due to the free field equation (∂²+m²)φ=0, noting that the derivative acts only on operators with argument x, not y.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of clear notation when dealing with multiple space-time arguments, arguing that poor notation can lead to confusion.
  • One participant explains that to show the Feynman propagator fulfills the differential equation of the Green's function, one must take derivatives of the expectation value of the time-ordered field-operator product and utilize properties of the Heaviside step function and canonical equal-time commutation relations.
  • Another participant expresses gratitude for clarifying the role of the derivative acting on specific arguments, indicating a moment of realization regarding the notation used.

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Participants express differing views on the clarity of notation and the implications of the equations involved. While some points are clarified, there remains uncertainty regarding the interpretation of specific terms and the overall computation process.

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Again, from the Peskin and Schroeder's book, I can't quite see how this computation goes:

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The thing I don't get is how the term with (\partial^{2}+m^{2})\langle 0| [\phi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle vanishes, and also why they only get a \langle 0 | [\pi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle from the \partial_{t}\langle 0 | [\phi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle and not also a \langle 0 | [\phi(x),\pi(y)] | 0 \rangle
 

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Me neither. Peskin/Schroeder is pretty unclear concerning propagators and its analytic properties.

First of all, one has to specify which propagator one is talking about, and this depends on what you want to do with it. In the case of perturbation theory in vacuum qft you need the time-ordered propagator, which is defined as the vacuum-expectation value of free field operators (here for an uncharged Klein-Gordon field)
\mathrm{i} D(x-y)=\langle 0|\mathcal{T}_c \hat{\phi}(x) \hat{\phi}(y)|0\rangle.
Now you plug in the expansion of the field operator in terms of creation and annihilation operators
\hat{\phi}(x)=\int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \frac{\mathrm{d}^3 \vec{p}}{\sqrt{(2 \pi)^3 2 \omega(\vec{p})}} [\hat{a}(\vec{p}) \exp(-p \cdot x) + \hat{a}^{\dagger}(\vec{p}) \exp(+p \cdot x) ]_{p^0=\omega(\vec{p})}.
Then you can write the propgator after some algebra with vacuum expectation values of annihilation and creation operator products as
\mathrm{i} D(x-y)=\int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \frac{\mathrm{d}^3 \vec{p}}{(2 \pi)^3 2 \omega(\vec{p})} \left [\Theta(\xi^0) \exp(-\mathrm{i} p \cdot \xi) + \Theta(-\xi) \exp(+\mathrm{i} p \cdot \xi) \right]_{p^0=\omega(\vec{p}),\xi=x-y}.
Now you take the Fourier transform of this wrt. \xi with a regulating factor \exp(-\epsilon |\xi^0|), which leads you to
\tilde{D}(p)=\int_{\mathbb{R}^4} \mathrm{d} \xi D(\xi) \exp(+\mathrm{i} p \cdot \<br /> \xi)=\frac{1}{p^2-m^2+\mathrm{i} \epsilon}.
The \mathrm{i} \epsilon has to be understood to be taken in the weak limit \epsilon \rightarrow 0^+.

For a more detailed explanation, why one has to use this time-ordered propagator, and also this derivation, see my QFT manuscript,

http://fias.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/publ/lect.pdf

Chapter 3.
 
guillefix said:
The thing I don't get is how the term with (\partial^{2}+m^{2})\langle 0| [\phi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle vanishes, and also why they only get a \langle 0 | [\pi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle from the \partial_{t}\langle 0 | [\phi(x),\phi(y)] | 0 \rangle and not also a \langle 0 | [\phi(x),\pi(y)] | 0 \rangle
It is because of the free field eqn. (∂2+m2)\phi=0,the last term vanishes.Note also that ∂μ will act only on operators whose argument is x,not y.Also the first term will involve a by part to get the result.Rest is just simple calculation based on commutator relation and some property of step function.
 
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andrien said:
Note also that ∂μ will act only on operators whose argument is x,not y.

That was the key I was missing, probably missed due to writting it so abstractly :P. Thanks!
 
That's not writing it "abstractly" but just bad notation. If there are more than one space-time argument involved, you always should write explicitly wrt. which one you take partial derivatives.

Now, I guess what you want to show is that the Feynman propagator of free fields fulfills the differential equation of the Green's function of the free Klein-Gordon operator. For this you just take the derivatives of the expectation value of the time-ordered field-operator product, writing the time-ordering symbol out in terms of Heaviside unitstep functions. Then you use
\partial_{t_1} \Theta(t_1-t_2)=-\partial_{t_2} \Theta(t_2-t_1)=\delta(t_1-t_2)
and the canonical equal-time commutation relations for the field operators.
 

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