Group Action of S3 on a set of ordered pairs

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The discussion revolves around the group action of the symmetric group S3 on the set of ordered pairs of integers from 1 to 3. Participants explore the calculation of orbits under this group action, addressing concepts of equivalence classes and their sizes.

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  • One participant presents calculations for the orbits of S3 acting on the set of ordered pairs, noting the results for orbits containing (1,1) and (1,2).
  • Another participant confirms the calculations are correct and clarifies that equivalence classes do not need to be of equal size.
  • A further reply explains that the condition of equal size for equivalence classes applies only in specific contexts, such as group congruences, and provides an example of an equivalence relation with classes of different sizes.
  • Participants discuss the implications of group actions on the structure of equivalence classes, with one providing a function that illustrates how such relations can be constructed.

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Participants generally agree on the correctness of the calculations and the nature of equivalence classes, but there is a nuanced discussion regarding the conditions under which equivalence classes may differ in size.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of group actions and equivalence relations, with participants noting that the presence of group structure can influence the regularity of equivalence classes.

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Dummit and Foote Section 4.1 Group Actions and Permutation Representations, Exercise 4 (first part of exercise) reads:

Let S_3 act on the set \Omega of ordered pairs: {(i,j) | 1≤ i,j ≤ 3} by σ((i,j)) = (σ(i), σ(j)). Find the orbits of S_3 on \Omega

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So, S_3 = { 1, (2 3), (1 3), (1 2), (1 2 3), (1 3 2) }

Now my first calculations follow:

The orbit of S_3 containing (1,1) = {g\star(1,1) | g \in S_3}

Thus calculating elements of this orbit:

(1)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_1(1,1) = ({\sigma}_1(1), {\sigma}_1(1)) = (1,1)

(2 3)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_{23}(1,1) = ({\sigma}_{23}(1), {\sigma}_{23}(1)) = (1,1)

(1 3)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_{13}(1,1) = ({\sigma}_{13}(1), {\sigma}_{13}(1)) = (3,3)

(1 2)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_{12}(1,1) = ({\sigma}_{12}(1), {\sigma}_{12}(1)) = (2,2)

(1 2 3)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_{123}(1,1) = ({\sigma}_{123}(1), {\sigma}_{123}(1)) = (2,2)

(1 3 2)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_{132}(1,1) = ({\sigma}_{132}(1), {\sigma}_{132}(1)) = (3,3)

Thus the orbit of S_3 = {(1.1), (2,2), (3,3)}

Next orbit:

The orbit of S_3 containing (1,2) = {g\star(1,2) | g \in S_3}

(1)\star(1,2) = {\sigma}_1(1,2) = ({\sigma}_1(1), {\sigma}_1(2)) = (1,2)

(2 3)\star(1,1) = {\sigma}_{23}(1,2) = ({\sigma}_{23}(1), {\sigma}_{23}(2)) = (1,3)

(1 3)\star(1,2) = {\sigma}_{13}(1,2) = ({\sigma}_{13}(1), {\sigma}_{13}(2)) = (3,2)

(1 2)\star(1,2) = {\sigma}_{12}(1,2) = ({\sigma}_{12}(1), {\sigma}_{12}(2)) = (2,1)

(1 2 3)\star(1,2) = {\sigma}_{123}(1,2) = ({\sigma}_{123}(1), {\sigma}_{123}(2)) = (2,3)

(1 3 2)\star(1,2) = {\sigma}_{132}(1,2) = ({\sigma}_{132}(1), {\sigma}_{132}(2)) = (3,1)

Thus the orbit of S_3 containing (1,2) = {(1,2), (1,3), (2,1), (2,3), 3,1), 3,2)}

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Could someone please indicate to me that the above calculations are proceeding correctly ( I am a math hobbyist working alone so I would appreciate someone indicating that my approach is correct)

Dummit and Foote mention that a group acting on a set A partitions that set into disjoint equivalence classes under the action of G

I was somewhat alarmed that I have, for the orbits, one set of 3 elements and another set of 6 elements.Previously I was under the impression (delusion??) that an equivalence relation partitioned a set into equal equivalence classes. The above tells me that the equivalence classes do not have to have the same number of elements - is that correct - or are my calculations of the orbits wrong?

Peter
 
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Everyhting here is correct!

And indeed, the equivalence classes of a relation do not need to partition a set in sets of equal size. I'm glad to free you from this delusion :smile:
 
the idea you had (of the equivalence classes being the same size) is only true for a group congruence (equivalence in G "mod H").

what happens is that the presence of a group multiplication on a set, introduces a certain kind of regularity on that set. for an ordinary set (with no group product), equivalence classes can be any size. imagine we have the following function:

f: A --->A, where A = {a,b,c}, given by:

f(a) = a
f(b) = a
f(c) = b

we can define a relation on A by:

x~y if f(x) = f(y).

note that x~x since f(x) = f(x), and if x~y, then f(x) = f(y), so f(y) = f(x), so y~x, and finally, if x~y, and y~z, then f(x) = f(y), and f(y) = f(z), so f(x) = f(z), and thus x~z.

so ~ is indeed an equivalence relation, but:

[a] = {a,b} [c] = {c} (a and b share the same image under f, namely a, but c is the only element in A with f(x) = b), and the equivalence classes are not the same size.

the above example is not a far-fetched one, many equivalence relations on a set arise in just such a way (and in fact, given an equivalence relation on a set, one can actually construct a function which produces that same partition). for your set Ω, we can do this like so:

f(1,1) = (1,1)
f(2,2) = (1,1)
f(3,3) = (1,1)
f(1,2) = (1,2)
f(1,3) = (1,2)
f(2,3) = (1,2)
f(2,1) = (1,2)
f(3,1) = (1,2)
f(3,2) = (1,2)

f is clearly a function Ω→Ω, and the relation (a,b)~(c,d) if f(a,b) = f(c,d) gives the same equivalence classes as your orbits.

(very nice post, by the way, so clear).
 
Thanks Deveno

Really informative as usual!

Peter
 
Thanks

Peter
 

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