Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the decomposition of Lie groups into irreducible representations (irreps) using physical notation, particularly in the context of group theory as it applies to unified model building in physics. Participants seek resources and methods for understanding this decomposition, including the use of Young diagrams and various textbooks.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Homework-related
Main Points Raised
- One participant requests resources for learning how to decompose Lie groups in physical notation, noting the difficulty in finding suitable materials.
- Another participant clarifies that the decomposition involves the tensor product of irreducible representations of Special Linear or Special Unitary Lie groups, suggesting the use of Young diagrams.
- A participant mentions a specific review by Richard Slansky that contains relevant information but is not self-contained, expressing a need for more comprehensive resources.
- Some participants discuss the limitations of Young tableaux, indicating they primarily apply to SU(N) and questioning the rules for other classical and exceptional Lie groups.
- Several books are recommended, including "Conformal Field Theories" by Di Francesco, Mathieu, and Senechal, and "Lie Algebras in Particle Physics" by Georgi, with varying levels of mathematical rigor and accessibility for physicists.
- One participant introduces the concept of using GAP, a computational system for discrete algebra, to assist in decomposing representations, providing example code for the decomposition of the Lie algebra d4.
- There is a discussion about the notation used for irreps and how physicists often substitute dimensions for more complex representations, with some noting that this choice is somewhat conventional rather than strictly defined.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of views on the resources available for learning about Lie group decomposition, with no consensus on a single best approach or resource. There is also uncertainty regarding the applicability of Young tableaux to various Lie groups, indicating a lack of agreement on this topic.
Contextual Notes
Some participants note that the discussion involves complex mathematical concepts that may not be fully covered in the recommended resources, and there are unresolved questions about the rules for Young tableaux for different Lie groups.