Guidelines on Writing a Math Thesis

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The discussion revolves around the expectations and guidelines for writing a mathematics thesis, particularly regarding the inclusion of proofs and references to foundational results in real analysis. Participants explore the balance between self-containment and referencing existing literature.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to include proofs of basic results in their thesis or to reference them, seeking clarity on what is typically expected.
  • Another participant suggests that basic results can be omitted if they are trivial, while emphasizing that general results should not be overlooked, providing examples related to topology and number theory.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that the level of the thesis and the intended audience should influence the decision on including proofs or references, particularly noting that a Ph.D. dissertation should provide sufficient detail for original material.
  • Several participants recommend consulting an adviser for guidance, with one noting that their adviser, a mechanical engineer, indicated that engineering theses are expected to be self-contained.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the appropriate approach to including proofs and references in a mathematics thesis, with multiple competing views presented regarding the balance between self-containment and referencing existing work.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about audience expectations and the norms in different fields, which may affect the guidance provided.

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Hello MHB,

I am in the process of writing my thesis.

I need some guidance on the same.

I need results from basic real analysis. I will be happy to provide their proofs in my thesis but I am not sure whether or not it is appropriate. In other words, I am not sure what do people expect to see in a thesis? Self-Containment with capital S and capital C or 'a proof can be found in \ref{book/paper}' or something in the middle of the two?

Danks in advance.
 
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Basic results can be omitted and refferred for staying-on-topic purpose, but general results cannot be missed. For example, I give three cases here :

1. When you are writing about some results related to connected spaces in topology, you must not omit Jordan's theorem.

2. If the result is too trivial or elementary, no reference is necessary. If you are writing a deep article or thesis or paper about structure of Gaussian integers (integers adjoined with $i$), then omit the fact that they form a group.

3. If the result is basic, but neither elementary nor trivial, refer a good place in which a good proof is given. If, for example, you are writing about density of primes of the form $x^4 + y^2$, give reference to a book in which either Dedekind's beautiful proof lies. (In fact, if your article is a bit topology-partial, give you might even want to give Zagier's proof into it)

PS : Follow at your own risk. I neither have been a thesis-writer nor an expert on mathematical presentation. I too, along with some co-authors, am going to write a paper (on a number theoretic topic) for the first time, so no guarantee neither warranty.
 
caffeinemachine said:
Hello MHB,

I am in the process of writing my thesis.

I need some guidance on the same.

I need results from basic real analysis. I will be happy to provide their proofs in my thesis but I am not sure whether or not it is appropriate. In other words, I am not sure what do people expect to see in a thesis? Self-Containment with capital S and capital C or 'a proof can be found in \ref{book/paper}' or something in the middle of the two?

Danks in advance.

I should think it would depend both on the level of your thesis as well as your intended audience. A Ph.D. dissertation should definitely only reference proofs in, say, textbooks or papers, while providing a solid and followable amount of detail for the original material. One exception might be if a proof occurs only in one paper, and it's nearly unreadable. Good scholarship would dictate that you would rewrite it more clearly so your audience can follow.
 
I would think this be a perfect question for your adviser...
 
Deveno said:
I would think this be a perfect question for your adviser...
My adviser is a mechanical engineer. I asked him this. He told me he wasn't sure what is the norm in mathematics theses but in engineering the work is supposed to be self contained.
 

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