Hamiltonian commutes with a parity operator -- What does that mean?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of a Hamiltonian commuting with a parity operator, specifically whether all eigenstates must be even or odd. Participants explore this concept in the context of quantum mechanics, particularly in one-dimensional and three-dimensional systems, and reference specific cases such as the quantum linear harmonic oscillator and the hydrogen atom.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if a Hamiltonian commutes with a parity operator, eigenstates must be either even or odd, particularly in non-degenerate cases.
  • Others argue that in systems with degenerate eigenstates, it is possible to construct superpositions that do not maintain parity eigenstate properties.
  • Participants discuss the specific case of the quantum linear harmonic oscillator, noting that it has both even and odd eigenstates.
  • One participant highlights that the ground state of the hydrogen atom is parity-even, while another questions the classification of the ground state wave function as even or odd.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of evenness in the context of spherically symmetric wave functions, with some asserting that the ground state is indeed even under the parity operator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether all eigenstates must be even or odd when a Hamiltonian commutes with a parity operator. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications for degenerate eigenstates and specific examples like the hydrogen atom.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of even and odd functions in the context of quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to spherical symmetry and the behavior of wave functions under the parity operator.

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If Hamiltonian commutes with a parity operator ##Px=-x## are then all eigenstates even or odd? Is it true always or only in one-dimensional case?
 
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But in the quantum linear harmonic oscillator case, you have even and odd eigenstates.
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
But in the quantum linear harmonic oscillator case, you have even and odd eigenstates.
Yes, you're right, even or odd.
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
But in the quantum linear harmonic oscillator case, you have even and odd eigenstates.
Sure, but since the eigenstates are non-degenerate they are also eigenstates of the parity operator and thus either even or odd.

For a system having degenerate energy eigenstates (i.e., if the Hamiltonian has an energy eigenvalue with more than one linearly independent eigenstate) then you can define an orthonormal set of common energy and parity eigenstates but you can build superpositions of energy eigenstates to the same eigenvalue (being then of course again an eigenstate of this eigenvalue) which is no parity eigenstate.

Take as an example the hydrogen atom (in the usual QM 1 non-relativistic solutions of the Coulomb problem). The only non-degenerate eigenstate is the ground state with ##n=1##, which necessarily has ##\ell=0## (and consequently also ##m=0##) and thus is parity-even (i.e., an eigenstate of parity with eigenvalue ##+1##; the usual common eigenstates of the energy (quantum number ##n##, ##E_n=-1 \text{Ry}/n^2##) angular momentum ##\vec{L}^2## (quantum number ##\ell##, eigenvalues ##\hbar^2 \ell(\ell+1)##), and ##L_z## (quantum number ##m##, eigenvalues ##m \hbar##). The ##n \in \mathbb{N}## and ##\ell \in \mathbb{N}_0## and for any fixed ##\ell## the ##m \in \{-\ell,-\ell+1,\ldots,\ell-1,\ell \}##, are all also parity eigenstates with parity eigenvalue ##(-1)^{\ell}##. Take the first excited energy level with ##n=2##, for which you can have ##\ell=0## or ##\ell=1## (in general for given ##n## the possible values for ##\ell## are ##\{0,1,\ldots,n-1\}##). So you can build a new energy eigenstate to this same ##n## which is no parity eigenstate by simply superimposing the (unique) eigenstate with ##n=2## and ##\ell=0## (being parity eigenstates with eigenvalue ##+1##) with any superposition of the three other eigenstates with ##n=2## and ##\ell=1## (being parity eigenstates with eigenvalue ##-1##). Then of course the superposition is not a parity eigenstate but still an energy eigenstate to the eigenvalue ##E_2##.
 
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Thank you. But just to understand. Ground state of hydrogen is
\psi_{100}(r)=C\mbox{e}^{-\frac{r}{a_0}}
and this is not even neither odd function. Right?
 
LagrangeEuler said:
Thank you. But just to understand. Ground state of hydrogen is
\psi_{100}(r)=C\mbox{e}^{-\frac{r}{a_0}}
and this is not even neither odd function. Right?
What definition of even are you using? It's spherically symmetric, so ##\psi(\vec r) = \psi (-\vec r)##.
 
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LagrangeEuler said:
Thank you. But just to understand. Ground state of hydrogen is
\psi_{100}(r)=C\mbox{e}^{-\frac{r}{a_0}}
and this is not even neither odd function. Right?
This is even under parity. The parity operator acts on a wave function as ##\hat{P} \psi(\vec{x})=\psi(-\vec{x})##. Since for ##\ell=0## the wavefunction depends only on ##r=|\vec{x}|## it's automatically even under parity.
 

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