Has the Definition of Whiteness Expanded in Media and Society?

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The discussion centers on the portrayal of race and relationships in television, highlighting the tendency to pair characters by race, which some participants argue is becoming less taboo. The conversation reveals a perception that the definition of "whiteness" has broadened, while the one-drop rule still applies to those of Black descent. Participants express concern over societal pressures to emulate whiteness, citing examples such as preferences among some Asian and Hispanic women for white partners and the prevalence of hair dyeing to avoid natural black hair. There is a debate about the need for narrative justification for interracial relationships on TV, with some arguing that such relationships should not require special explanation, while others believe that they stand out due to societal norms. The conversation touches on the significance of representation in media and the impact of audience demographics on portrayals of race. Participants also discuss the complexities of cultural pride and the importance of individual achievements over racial identity. Overall, the thread reflects a nuanced examination of race, identity, and representation in contemporary media.
  • #31
Gokul43201 said:
Jet Li, Danger? Really?

Hey, I'm straight, but I'm not blind. I don't think that a woman would have to put a bag over his head. (Although I once knew a woman who was so ugly that I had to double-bag her; one over my own head in case hers fell off...)
 
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  • #32
jimmysnyder said:
Do you have a citation for that? Do you have a citation for the other two statistics?

I live there, and no citation needed but I'll include this link which shows demographic make up of one school in my neighborhood:

http://www.sysd.k12.ca.us/Schools/sarcs/AccountabilityReportSunset.pdf

As for the others:
http://www.8asians.com/2007/08/10/why-asian-girls-go-for-white-guys/

http://modelminority.com/article242.html

Don't rely on citations for everything or else you'll never get anywhere. Make your own citations from first-hand experience.
 
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  • #33
DaveC426913 said:
Not to me, to the viewing audience, which is considered as relatively conservative by show writers.


That answered it.
 
  • #34
Danger said:
I suppose that you're right. My thinking is that the world is full of idiots; either pretend to be stupid to fit in, or screw 'em. I always opt for the latter. :devil:

Couldn't agree with you more.
...hey, it's nice to see you comment on my posting (remember me?)
 
  • #35
Gokul43201 said:
So how would a typical rural, midwesterner respond to being shown an inter-racial couple on TV? I've got no idea, so I'd like to hear from someone that does.
It's your moral majority, the entire Bible Belt which tv producers (for the mainstream networks) realize is their advertising bread and butter. It's funny, Black and Asian isn't consider too shocking (there is a black and asian couple on the popular series "Men in Trees"), Hispanics and Asian you don't see since those two groups tend not to like each other. The tv show Bones shows a romance between and asian woman and a white mail. White and black couples, usually on crime scene shows, gay couples more affluent, but still not mainstream shows,
 
  • #36
Evo said:
It's your moral majority, the entire Bible Belt which tv producers (for the mainstream networks) realize is their advertising bread and butter. It's funny, Black and Asian isn't consider too shocking (there is a black and asian couple on the popular series "Men in Trees"), Hispanics and Asian you don't see since those two groups tend not to like each other. The tv show Bones shows a romance between and asian woman and a white mail. White and black couples, usually on crime scene shows, gay couples more affluent, but still not mainstream shows,

The woman on bones is actually half white, half East Asian
 
  • #37
animalcroc said:
Don't rely on citations for everything or else you'll never get anywhere. Make your own citations from first-hand experience.
This is exactly wrong. Anecdotal information is the least reliable evidence.
 
  • #38
Danger said:
Hey, I'm straight, but I'm not blind.
The expression is more eloquently:

Hey, I may be straight but I'm not narrow. :approve:
 
  • #39
animalcroc said:
Don't rely on citations for everything or else you'll never get anywhere. Make your own citations from first-hand experience.
Don't rely on the BS you read on the net either. 93% of the statistics are made up.
 

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