Have you seen Gattaca yet? Mind-blowing and thought-provoking!

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The discussion revolves around the film "Gattaca," exploring its themes, emotional impact, and various interpretations. Participants share their personal reactions, analyze specific scenes, and discuss underlying messages related to individualism, societal structures, and religious allusions.

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  • Some participants express deep admiration for the film's philosophical tone and emotional depth, describing it as "stupefying" and "thought-provoking."
  • Others mention experiencing monotony in parts of the film but highlight specific scenes, such as the swimming scene, as remarkable.
  • There are mixed feelings about casting choices, with some participants questioning the decisions made.
  • Several participants note allusions to Christianity, with differing interpretations of whether these portrayals are positive or negative.
  • One participant emphasizes the film's message about individual determination against societal constraints, while another challenges the framing of government influence in the narrative.
  • Some express emotional responses, including crying at the film's conclusion, while others maintain a more critical perspective on its impact.

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Participants exhibit a range of opinions on the film's themes, emotional resonance, and interpretations of its messages. There is no consensus on the portrayal of Christianity or the effectiveness of casting choices, indicating ongoing debate and differing viewpoints.

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Participants reference specific scenes and thematic elements without fully resolving their interpretations, leaving room for further exploration of the film's messages and artistic choices.

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dekoi
Just finished watching the movie.

Absolutely stupefying. For the first time in my life, i feel almost in complete speechlessness.

Its deep, philosophical tone; its variety of messages communicated, after which the thunderous apex in the background music just erupts in the face of the viewer. The harmony of music with the script; its extreme maturity, beauty, intellect, and most of all suspense.

Perfect portrayal of the fight between the two complimentary sides of the human being.

One negative is some of the choices in the casting. Other than that, perfect.
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I've seen most of that movie, but I ended up falling asleep. Not that it's a bad movie, it's really good and interesting, I was just really tired.
 
check said:
I've seen most of that movie, but I ended up falling asleep. Not that it's a bad movie, it's really good and interesting, I was just really tired.
Some parts of the movie do tend to be sort of monotonous, but the swimming scene near the end of the movie is absolutely incredible work.
 
dekoi said:
Some parts of the movie do tend to be sort of monotonous, but the swimming scene near the end of the movie is absolutely incredible work.
There's a naked chick isn't there? :rolleyes:
 
Smurf said:
There's a naked chick isn't there? :rolleyes:


I think he's talking about when the guy out swims his brother...no sex there...

I liked the movie, one of my favorites. Of course any movie centered around the power of a determined individual who doesn't rely on a liberal government to pay his way is bound to score points with me. :wink:
 
I'm sorry to hear the family members weren't very close...

Yes, good film thought I. Of course any movie centered around the power of a determined individual who outwits bigoted elitists is bound to score points with me. :cool:
 
BoulderHead, you realized you said almost the exact same thing as franznietzsche. Was that on purpose? :S (You never know).

I saw several allussions to Christianity in the film as well. Did anyone notice anything off great interest?
 
I cried at the end. :cry: I only saw it recently for the first time. It was playing late at night on WB one weekend.
 
dekoi said:
BoulderHead, you realized you said almost the exact same thing as franznietzsche. Was that on purpose? :S (You never know).

I saw several allussions to Christianity in the film as well. Did anyone notice anything off great interest?


I think it might have been a direct response...

to which i say: Still, he did it without a government handout.
 
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I too really liked this film.

As for relating to Christianity, can you explain what you mean? I just don't see it.
 
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ShawnD said:
I too really liked this film.

As for relating to Christianity, can you explain what you mean? I just don't see it.
Several times, there's small hints to crucifixion (such as him lying on the floor with his legs almost together and his arms spread [happens twice or more]). There is also a scene with the actual crucifix.
 
  • #12
Ahh... One of my favourites
Several times, there's small hints to crucifixion (such as him lying on the floor with his legs almost together and his arms spread [happens twice or more]). There is also a scene with the actual crucifix.
Was that the part where he was trying to be taller with that thingy on his legs?
 
  • #13
Good film, but nothing that would live me speechless.
 
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Entropy said:
Good film, but nothing that would live me speechless.
I'm sure you meant "leave". :rolleyes:

I think i am only speechless become i think of myself as a very critical thinker. I not only watch movies, but i deconstruct them.

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dekoi said:
BoulderHead, you realized you said almost the exact same thing as franznietzsche. Was that on purpose? :S (You never know).
I was attempting to excise that part which blamed it only on a specific type of government (in this case; liberal) as I’m inclined to believe it could have easily happened under other types as well. I didn't see the need to narrow it so, in other words.
I saw several allussions to Christianity in the film as well. Did anyone notice anything off great interest?
I don't recall the details of that film but if I took a guess and said it would have likely portrayed Christianity negatively would I be correct?
 
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BoulderHead said:
I was attempting to excise that part which blamed it only on a specific type of government (in this case; liberal) as I’m inclined to believe it could have easily happened under other types as well. I didn't see the need to narrow it so, in other words.

I don't recall the details of that film but if I took a guess and said it would have likely portrayed Christianity negatively would I be correct?
I think it portrayed Christianity positively. The entire movie shows the power of the human will, and the sacrafice [like Jesus] which he endured to prosper in his life.
 
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Well, maybe I won't watch that show again after all, haha (just teasing, I'll try to remember it).
 
  • #18
My favourite movie...

I love the message. A single guy going against established order to achieve his dream... and yet for all his merit, he didn't make it alone. The doctor figured him out, as did the mission director. And the police. But they let him be, because they realize that it could be them at the wrong side of the genetic divide.

What do you mean by bad casting choices? The cast is simply superb!