HD colored picture of Solvay 1927 for poster

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The discussion revolves around the search for a high-definition, colorized version of the Solvay 1927 photograph, with participants sharing links to existing images and expressing preferences for different versions. The conversation touches on personal anecdotes related to family connections with the individuals in the photograph and the challenges of using AI for image enhancement.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a high-definition, colorized version of the Solvay 1927 photograph, noting the existence of different images from the event.
  • Another participant shares links to versions of the photograph that include names of the individuals, but notes that these do not match their preferred image.
  • There are mentions of using AI tools, such as DeOldify and MyHeritage, for colorization and animation of the photograph, with mixed success reported by participants.
  • Some participants discuss personal family connections to individuals in the photograph, raising questions about which scientists from a related 1921 photo also appear in the Solvay image.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality and accuracy of AI-generated colorization, with one participant indicating dissatisfaction with the results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the preferred version of the photograph, with multiple competing views on which image is best. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the quality and availability of high-definition colorized versions.

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Participants express uncertainty about the availability of higher quality images and the effectiveness of AI tools for colorization. There are references to specific versions of the photograph that may have different qualities and details, but no definitive conclusions are drawn.

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Individuals interested in historical photographs, particularly those related to the Solvay conferences, as well as those exploring AI applications in image processing and colorization.

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Hey people, I finally lost my job, i.e. I finally have a few minutes to live my life. I have wanted to have a poster in my room of the Solvay 1927 picture in HD and the colored version. From what I've seen on the Internet, there seem to be different pictures of the scene, probably taken a few seconds of interval. And there is only 1 of the pictures that is popularized as a color version on the web. Unfortunately, I much prefer the other picture, for which I have found no colorized version.

I am therefore looking for a HD version, something like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Solvay_conference_1927_(group_photograph)_bw.jpg but without the scratches/damages of the picture, which would ruin the picture on a wall, possibly in black and white. Then I would use an open source software that leave no watermark and leave the high quality on (apparently a luxury to find), I am guessing something like https://github.com/jantic/DeOldify.

I already could color the picture, but not in HD and the default color was way too blueish.
 
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….Then take a head shot here: https://www.myheritage.com/
“Deep Nostalgia” (creates an animation based on a still photograph).

The original still .png was 1117x1897 (shown reduced here),
taken from a zoom of the original-size image from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Solvay_conference_1927_(color).jpg
(highest quality b/w ? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Solvay_conference_1927_restored_source.png )

The myheritage-generated .mp4 was 512x512 @ 20fps.
With ffpmeg, I made this animated .gif as 200x200 @ 5 fps for upload here.

Einstein-original-screenshot.png
Einstein-DeepNostalgia-ffmpegOptions.gif
 
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Apropos earlier posts, my paternal great-grandma claimed relation to the person in the light suit standing near the center of this photo. The man to his right married my maternal grandma's cousin after emigrating to the US. My mother and now my older sister keep track of family connections.

I know my father was worried that I inherited cousin Charles's spine problems, but improved health care, diet and exercise helped me grow reasonably straight with only minor 'hunchback'.

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I wonder which scientists and EE's in this 1921 photo also appear later at Solvay?
 
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I wonder which scientists in this photo also appear at Solvay?
Sounds like a challenge problem for AI facial-recognition. :smile:?
 
Klystron said:
Apropos earlier posts, my paternal great-grandma claimed relation to the person in the light suit standing near the center of this photo. The man to his right married my maternal grandma's cousin after emigrating to the US. My mother and now my older sister keep track of family connections.

I know my father was worried that I inherited cousin Charles's spine problems, but improved health care, diet and exercise helped me grow reasonably straight with only minor 'hunchback'.

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I wonder which scientists and EE's in this 1921 photo also appear later at Solvay?
I've never seen this. I saw a Dirac photo where all his class mates were in a group photo a little like this. When he was on his Engineering placement.
 
fluidistic said:
Hey people, I finally lost my job, i.e. I finally have a few minutes to live my life. I have wanted to have a poster in my room of the Solvay 1927 picture in HD and the colored version. From what I've seen on the Internet, there seem to be different pictures of the scene, probably taken a few seconds of interval. And there is only 1 of the pictures that is popularized as a color version on the web. Unfortunately, I much prefer the other picture, for which I have found no colorized version.

I am therefore looking for a HD version, something like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Solvay_conference_1927_(group_photograph)_bw.jpg but without the scratches/damages of the picture, which would ruin the picture on a wall, possibly in black and white. Then I would use an open source software that leave no watermark and leave the high quality on (apparently a luxury to find), I am guessing something like https://github.com/jantic/DeOldify.

I already could color the picture, but not in HD and the default color was way too blueish.

What was your job and why do you not have long left in your life?
 
I ain't having good success with that AI coloring.


I guess I will take it anyway. I notice that there's probably a higher quality version, but can only be ordered from a Zurich website, not free.
 
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I ain't having good success with that AI coloring.


I guess I will take it anyway. I notice that there's probably a higher quality version, but can only be ordered from a Zurich website, not free.

That's cool. A few stories in that picture.
 

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