Heater power keeping a room constantly warm from low temperatures outside

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The discussion centers on calculating the power required for a heater to maintain a constant room temperature of 24 °C against an outside temperature of -5 °C. The user attempts to apply various thermal equations, including Q = (ΔT⋅A⋅k)/d, but expresses confusion about their validity and the correct approach. It is clarified that the problem involves thermal conduction rather than radiation, emphasizing the need to focus on heat transfer through the wall. The wall area is confirmed to be 12 m², which is crucial for the calculations. Understanding the relationship between heat loss and heat gain is essential for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement
The temperature of a room in winter is kept constant at 24 °C by using a heater. The room is separated from the outside, where the temperature is -5.0 °C, by a wall of area 12 m^2 and thickness 0.20 m. The material of the wall has a thermal conductivity of 0.15 W m1 K-1. Estimate the power of the heater.
Relevant Equations
None given, and I can't find any that work or figure out how to use any
I've been trying for 45 minutes and doing research but I can't even find a start to how to approach this. :(

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I've tried to do the following:
P = AM
M = eoT^4 (e being the emmisivity, o being the constant i think stefen boltzmann)
M = ((Pm^-1)/(oT^4)) x oT^4 (subbing e because emissivity = (power radiated per unit area)/(σT^4)
oT^4 x M = Pm^-1 x oT^4
M = Pm^-1 (cancelling)
and then I have no clue what to do, or if this even makes any sense or if I am using the right formula.
I have also used
Q= (ΔT⋅A⋅k)/d
to calculate
Q=(29 x 0.15)/0.20m
Q= 52.2 / 0.20
Q=261 W
but again I really dont know if what I did is real, ai generated this formula and when I searched for it online I couldn't find it.
 
Karma1412 said:
Homework Statement: The temperature of a room in winter is kept constant at 24 °C by using a heater. The room is separated from the outside, where the temperature is -5.0 °C, by a wall of area 12 m2 and thickness 0.20 m. The material of the wall has a thermal conductivity of 0.15 W m1 K-1. Estimate the power of the heater.
Relevant Equations: I'm not sure, but the one's I've found from the research I did seem to be:
Q= (ΔT⋅A⋅k)/d (Im not sure if this formula is real, it's what ChatGPT gave me when I asked for help)
L = σAT^4 (I don't know if it is relevant)
P = AM

I've tried to do the following:
P = AM
M = eoT^4 (e being the emmisivity, o being the constant i think stefen boltzmann)
M = ((Pm^-1)/(oT^4)) x oT^4 (subbing e because emissivity = (power radiated per unit area)/(σT^4)
oT^4 x M = Pm^-1 x oT^4
M = Pm^-1 (cancelling)
and then I have no clue what to do, or if this even makes any sense or if I am using the right formula.
I have also used
Q= (ΔT⋅A⋅k)/d
to calculate
Q=(29 x 0.15)/0.20m
Q= 52.2 / 0.20
Q=261 W
but again I really dont know if what I did is real, ai generated this formula and when I searched for it online I couldn't find it.
The intention is 1D steady state thermal heat conduction through a plane wall.
 
erobz said:
The intention is 1D steady state thermal heat conduction through a plane wall.
thank you, ill do some research on it :)
 
Karma1412 said:
Q= (ΔT⋅A⋅k)/d

Q=(29 x 0.15)/0.20m
What about A?
 
Karma1412 said:
Homework Statement: The temperature of a room in winter is kept constant at 24 °C by using a heater. The room is separated from the outside, where the temperature is -5.0 °C, by a wall of area 12 m^2 and thickness 0.20 m. The material of the wall has a thermal conductivity of 0.15 W m1 K-1. Estimate the power of the heater.
Relevant Equations: None given, and I can't find any that work or figure out how to use any

I've been trying for 45 minutes and doing research but I can't even find a start to how to approach this. :(
The temperature of the room is constant. That tells us something about the relationship between heat leaving the room and heat being added to the room.

How does heat leave the room?

How is heat added to the room?
 
Karma1412 said:
I've tried to do the following:
P = AM
M = eoT^4 (e being the emmisivity, o being the constant i think stefen boltzmann)
M = ((Pm^-1)/(oT^4)) x oT^4 (subbing e because emissivity = (power radiated per unit area)/(σT^4)
oT^4 x M = Pm^-1 x oT^4
M = Pm^-1 (cancelling)
This problem is not related to emissivity or radiation.
It is a thermal conduction one.
Energy in form of heat naturally flows through that wall from the warm to the cold space.

Please, see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conduction#Fourier's_law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_heat_flow

:cool:
 
haruspex said:
What about A?
A is the wall area, given in the problem as 12 m^2.
 
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phyzguy said:
A is the wall area, given in the problem as 12 m^2.
I was asking why it does not appear in the second of the two equations I quoted.
 
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